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bold_n_brazen 09-01-2005 08:27 PM

On a lighter note
 
There is a receiver who plays for the NFL's Kansas City Chiefs whose momma named him Craphonso Thorpe.

TexLex 09-01-2005 08:28 PM

My resume isn't online.
 
What the heck kind of scam is this?

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notcasesensitive 09-01-2005 08:32 PM

On a lighter note
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
There is a receiver who plays for the NFL's Kansas City Chiefs whose momma named him Craphonso Thorpe.
When do you think the Saints will end up moving to LA and how badly do you think that the franchise will be fucked up before they get the fuck out of Los Angeles and head to greener pastures? The Texarkana Saints?

It is my understanding that the plan at the moment is for their home opener in a couple of weeks (against my Giants) to be played in Baton Rouge. Any bets on whether or not they'll ever play in the Superdome again? My guess is it is headed for demolition.

Gattigap 09-01-2005 08:40 PM

On a lighter note
 
Quote:

Originally posted by notcasesensitive


It is my understanding that the plan at the moment is for their home opener in a couple of weeks (against my Giants) to be played in Baton Rouge. Any bets on whether or not they'll ever play in the Superdome again? My guess is it is headed for demolition.
It probably should be. Roof torn to shit, holes in the roof, rendered unsanitary by 10,000 people stuck there with no electricity or sewage, and the site of several deaths, apparently. They should raze it and start over.

notcasesensitive 09-01-2005 08:43 PM

On a lighter note
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gattigap
It probably should be. Roof torn to shit, holes in the roof, rendered unsanitary by 10,000 people stuck there with no electricity or sewage, and the site of several deaths, apparently. They should raze it and start over.
Agreed. It probably should have been on the list for demolition before the hurricane hit. Now it seems a no-brainer.

But a new stadium would take years even if every other building in the city didn't need to be rebuilt or repaired at once, no? To rephrase my question, where do you think the Saints will end up playing this year?

Gattigap 09-01-2005 08:44 PM

On a lighter note
 
Quote:

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
When do you think the Saints will end up moving to LA and how badly do you think that the franchise will be fucked up before they get the fuck out of Los Angeles and head to greener pastures? The Texarkana Saints?
Forgot this part. Saint's ain't comin' to LA. Several of the assholes who run the league (Hi, Mr. Jones!) have from time to time declared, with noses skyward, that they'll expand to Los Angeles only when Angelenos decide to pay boatloads of bucks to the league, and even then only if we ask nicely.

To which (some community leaders aside), LA has responded with a yawn, a contented burp, and a return to the 8 billion other things to do on a Sunday (including watching the other teams on TV).

bold_n_brazen 09-01-2005 08:44 PM

On a lighter note
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gattigap
It probably should be. Roof torn to shit, holes in the roof, rendered unsanitary by 10,000 people stuck there with no electricity or sewage, and the site of several deaths, apparently. They should raze it and start over.
As a Syracuse alum who watched the Sugar Bowl fiasco with Auburn there (Fuck Pat Dye. He should have been shot.) and then like six months later watched Keith Smart hit a jumper with seconds left to steal the national championship, I would have no objections to seeing that stadium blown to bits. Crying in the aisles there twice in a lifetime is more than enough for me.

Gattigap 09-01-2005 08:45 PM

On a lighter note
 
Quote:

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Agreed. It probably should have been on the list for demolition before the hurricane hit. Now it seems a no-brainer.

But a new stadium would take years even if every other building in the city didn't need to be rebuilt or repaired at once, no? To rephrase my question, where do you think the Saints will end up playing this year?
Baton Rouge, or Memphis.

notcasesensitive 09-01-2005 08:49 PM

On a lighter note
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gattigap
Forgot this part. Saint's ain't comin' to LA. Several of the assholes who run the league (Hi, Mr. Jones!) have from time to time declared, with noses skyward, that they'll expand to Los Angeles only when Angelenos decide to pay boatloads of bucks to the league, and even then only if we ask nicely.

To which (some community leaders aside), LA has responded with a yawn, a contented burp, and a return to the 8 billion other things to do on a Sunday (including watching the other teams on TV).
That is not what I have heard. LA is to have the next team that comes up for grabs. I'm not saying I want one here because I could care less, I'm just saying that at the time of the last expansion, it was promised or whatever and I've heard rumblings of talks with every team trying to negotiate a deal with its present city ever since. The LA Vikings, etc.

SlaveNoMore 09-01-2005 08:51 PM

NOLA
 
Quote:

mmm3587
I wonder if this will be a wake-up call to Americans about the effects of having a poor, uneducated underclass without options, opportunities, etc. They're harder to ignore now, aren't they?

Probably not - the predominant response seems to be "Oh, screw them, they are poor and lazy and can't afford anything better. Just like in Haiti or Southeast Asia"

I guess that raping, looting (real looting, not taking neccessities), shooting, etc. are ways that people ravaged by conditions can take out their grief and despair. Sort of a "I have suffered - now I will make others suffer more." People will act like animals if they are given the chance and the motivation. That's sad.
As I read this, the tune in my head keeps flipping between "Kum Bah Yah" and the original "I'd like to buy the world a Coke"

Gattigap 09-01-2005 08:52 PM

On a lighter note
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
(Fuck Pat Dye. He should have been shot.)
Pat Dye? That's like me posting about Vince Dooley.

Oh, darlin'. My mental image of you was mid-20s. I am just crushed by this discovery.

Gattigap 09-01-2005 08:54 PM

On a lighter note
 
Quote:

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
That is not what I have heard. LA is to have the next team that comes up for grabs. I'm not saying I want one here because I could care less, I'm just saying that at the time of the last expansion, it was promised or whatever and I've heard rumblings of talks with every team trying to negotiate a deal with its present city ever since. The LA Vikings, etc.
The discussion is schizophrenic, I grant you. Perpetual wooing, persistent losses. I remember an article in the LA Times a few weeks back in which Jerry Jones supposedly threw cold water on the whole enterprise, and undoubtedly that's coloring my view.

bold_n_brazen 09-01-2005 08:57 PM

On a lighter note
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gattigap
Pat Dye? That's like me posting about Vince Dooley.

Oh, darlin'. My mental image of you was mid-20s. I am just crushed by this discovery.
My mental image of myself is mid-twenties too. Imagine how crushed I am.

Sparklehorse 09-01-2005 08:57 PM

On a lighter note
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gattigap
Pat Dye? That's like me posting about Vince Dooley.

Oh, darlin'. My mental image of you was mid-20s. I am just crushed by this discovery.
She said she's looking for guys who are 40ish. Please pay attention.

notcasesensitive 09-01-2005 09:22 PM

CNN
 
Does anyone else think that there should be a violent* uprising to take down cnn.com and replace it with some sort of service that actually reports news in a timely and accurate manner? MSNBC ain't it either. Just curious.



*Poor word choice, I know, but I'm seriously irritated at the moment.

SlaveNoMore 09-01-2005 09:31 PM

CNN
 
Quote:

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Does anyone else think that there should be a violent* uprising to take down cnn.com and replace it with some sort of service that actually reports news in a timely and accurate manner? MSNBC ain't it either.
There already was a few years back.

It's called Fox News.

futbol fan 09-01-2005 09:37 PM

On a lighter note
 
Quote:

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
my Giants
J - E - T - S Jets Jets Jets

Giants suck bat cock.

futbol fan 09-01-2005 09:39 PM

CNN
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
There already was a few years back.

It's called Fox News.
2. Fox just had a highly educational special on how the hurricane is the direct result of the protests against the Vietnam war.

SlaveNoMore 09-01-2005 09:39 PM

On a lighter note
 
Quote:

ironweed
J - E - T - S Jets Jets Jets

Giants suck bat cock.
We actually agree on something, Padraig?

Apocalypse, indeed.

notcasesensitive 09-01-2005 09:40 PM

CNN
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
There already was a few years back.

It's called Fox News.
HA ha ha ha ha ha ha. Good one.

futbol fan 09-01-2005 09:41 PM

On a lighter note
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
We actually agree on something, Padraig?

Apocalypse, indeed.
Feck aff, ye hun bastirt.

notcasesensitive 09-01-2005 09:43 PM

CNN
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ironweed
2. Fox just had a highly educational special on how the hurricane is the direct result of the protests against the Vietnam war.
Was it Fox News or MSNBC that had its person reporting from Aruba on the hurricane because she was on location for her big Nathalie Holloway piece and they didn't bother getting another anchor to cover their actual important news in the headquarters? Some awful woman with a raspy voice. We couldn't fathom who ever hired her with that voice to be an anchorperson. Grating.

ETA - same night, Fox News (I think) had the guy from Scarborough County/Country or whatever that show is called (I guess he must be Scarborough) doing the hurricane coverage. What the hell? where are all of the actual newspeople these days? I mean besides John Stewart.

ltl/fb 09-01-2005 09:45 PM

NOLA
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
Do you really think anyone gives a crap about the "poor, uneducated underclass"? Do you really think I do?

Here's the thing that pisses me off about that mentality. There's a way out of being the "poor, uneducated underclass" in this country. Anyone can join the armed forces and bootstrap their way to a better life. And yes, I say this as the soon-to-be ex-wife of a US Army officer.

I think that a lot of the "poor, uneducated underclass" thinks they are entitled to a hell of a lot. And that sense of entitlement bewilders me.
I am getting the sense that you feel that the people who didn't have cars in which to evacuate were just too stupid to evacuate. You are truly charming (and whiffalicious, in your response to SS's post about people greeting the helicopters with open arms etc. etc.) this evening. Almost as much so as night before last.

paigowprincess 09-01-2005 09:46 PM

New Orleans donations
 
Hey,

I am making my donations. I just sent some money to Preservation Hall, which fully goes to financially support the musicans. http://www.preservationhall.com/2.0/

Now, I am going to make a big ole red cross donation. My firm is matching my funds so I wante to see if Lawtalkres has hit Five Hundred yet? I would rather maximize my donations, but if we havent hit the level here yet, maybe I will split my donation.

futbol fan 09-01-2005 09:47 PM

On a lighter note
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
As a Syracuse alum
Durty orange bastirts, the lot o' ye.

SlaveNoMore 09-01-2005 09:47 PM

New Orleans donations
 
Quote:

paigowprincess
Hey,

I am making my donations. I just sent some money to Preservation Hall, which fully goes to financially support the musicans. http://www.preservationhall.com/2.0/

Now, I am going to make a big ole red cross donation. My firm is matching my funds so I wante to see if Lawtalkres has hit Five Hundred yet? I would rather maximize my donations, but if we havent hit the level here yet, maybe I will split my donation.
You haven't given a fucking dime to this site yet. Why start now?

ltl/fb 09-01-2005 09:48 PM

On a lighter note
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gattigap
Pat Dye? That's like me posting about Vince Dooley.

Oh, darlin'. My mental image of you was mid-20s. I am just crushed by this discovery.
Please. Brassy dyed hair, blowsy figure, raspy voice. Total cougar. So cougary you'd think she's gotta be a guy in drag or something.

ltl/fb 09-01-2005 09:49 PM

New Orleans donations
 
Quote:

Originally posted by paigowprincess
Hey,

I am making my donations. I just sent some money to Preservation Hall, which fully goes to financially support the musicans. http://www.preservationhall.com/2.0/

Now, I am going to make a big ole red cross donation. My firm is matching my funds so I wante to see if Lawtalkres has hit Five Hundred yet? I would rather maximize my donations, but if we havent hit the level here yet, maybe I will split my donation.
Sweet pea, it's posted on the very front page that we hit more than 700 on, like, Tuesday.

futbol fan 09-01-2005 09:50 PM

New Orleans donations
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Sweet pea, it's posted on the very front page that we hit more than 700 on, like, Tuesday.
Bastirts.

paigowprincess 09-01-2005 09:50 PM

New Orleans donations
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Sweet pea, it's posted on the very front page that we hit more than 700 on, like, Tuesday.
Jesus, why so bitchy? My bookmark goes to Forums. I am trying to do something nice, no need to be all condescending and shit.

notcasesensitive 09-01-2005 09:51 PM

New Orleans donations
 
Quote:

Originally posted by paigowprincess
Hey,

I am making my donations. I just sent some money to Preservation Hall, which fully goes to financially support the musicans. http://www.preservationhall.com/2.0/

Now, I am going to make a big ole red cross donation. My firm is matching my funds so I wante to see if Lawtalkres has hit Five Hundred yet? I would rather maximize my donations, but if we havent hit the level here yet, maybe I will split my donation.
I think LT is at $700-something. RT posted it in the Welcome thread (the post also shows up on the LT homepage).

Are you going to make a donation to an animal charity as well? I know you are into that sort of thing (and the scale of lost/homeless pets in LA and MS is mindboggling I'm sure). I posted a link to a good one the other day. www.noahswish.org

ltl/fb 09-01-2005 09:51 PM

New Orleans donations
 
Quote:

Originally posted by paigowprincess
Jesus, why so bitchy? My bookmark goes to Forums. I am trying to do something nice, no need to be all condescending and shit.
I was not bitchy. I was condescending. And blame bnb -- it stems from her inanity.

paigowprincess 09-01-2005 09:53 PM

New Orleans donations
 
Quote:

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
I think LT is at $700-something. RT posted it in the Welcome thread (the post also shows up on the LT homepage).

Are you going to make a donation to an animal charity as well? I know you are into that sort of thing (and the scale of lost/homeless pets in LA and MS is mindboggling I'm sure). I posted a link to a good one the other day. www.noahswish.org
Thanks for that. I will. My sister just sent me a pic of some guy dragging his dog around in a garbage can. I would like to send THAT guy some money directly.

mmm3587 09-01-2005 09:53 PM

NOLA
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
Do you really think anyone gives a crap about the "poor, uneducated underclass"? Do you really think I do?

Here's the thing that pisses me off about that mentality. There's a way out of being the "poor, uneducated underclass" in this country. Anyone can join the armed forces and bootstrap their way to a better life. And yes, I say this as the soon-to-be ex-wife of a US Army officer.

I think that a lot of the "poor, uneducated underclass" thinks they are entitled to a hell of a lot. And that sense of entitlement bewilders me.
I don't really know very much about you, but I would presume that you are human enough to have at least some empathy for people in situations worse than yours. Even if they deserve where they are, or should have fled, or whatever else. If for no other reason than the fact that many other cities have large urban poor populations, and maybe this could affect you in some other way than you just hearing about it. It's not like, if the situation were right, mob violence couldn't happen in other places.

I'm certainly a big proponent of the whole personal responsibility thing. It's one of the few things I like about today's GOP: personal responsibility above all else (well, except for corporate welfare, but who's counting?). Certainly, the poor in America get a lot more done for them than in many other (mostly third world) countries, and often, they are to blame for their predicaments. There are ways out of/around lots of things: losing one's job, getting sick, having terrible medical bills, having a spouse die, etc. That doesn't mean that everyone is going to be able to find a reasonable way out.

However, I think about how I got to where I am, and I don't think that I would have gotten here had I been raised by parents without jobs, or with drug problems, or without much education. Frankly, I think that it's a pretty sad statement about our society that the best way out for a lot of people is to join the military.

mmm3587 09-01-2005 09:59 PM

NOLA
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
As I read this, the tune in my head keeps flipping between "Kum Bah Yah" and the original "I'd like to buy the world a Coke"
I'm not really that idealistic. There will always be an underclass, and there will always be people who will never make their own lives better. At some level , sure, fuck them. At some point, though, having this many uneducated people, poor people, incarcerated people, etc., starts to weigh on the ability of our country to be productive and lead the world and all that shit.

sebastian_dangerfield 09-01-2005 10:00 PM

NOLA
 
Quote:

Originally posted by mmm3587
I wonder if this will be a wake-up call to Americans about the effects of having a poor, uneducated underclass without options, opportunities, etc. They're harder to ignore now, aren't they?

Probably not - the predominant response seems to be "Oh, screw them, they are poor and lazy and can't afford anything better. Just like in Haiti or Southeast Asia"

I guess that raping, looting (real looting, not taking neccessities), shooting, etc. are ways that people ravaged by conditions can take out their grief and despair. Sort of a "I have suffered - now I will make others suffer more." People will act like animals if they are given the chance and the motivation. That's sad.
I have no problem with looting to save your family. Thats just survival. But stealing from people who can't protect their homes should earn you a bullet between your eyes.

I wish the best of luck to the people protecting their homes. And I hope they murder every son of a bitch who tries to steal from them.

bold_n_brazen 09-01-2005 10:04 PM

NOLA
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ltl/fb
I am getting the sense that you feel that the people who didn't have cars in which to evacuate were just too stupid to evacuate. You are truly charming (and whiffalicious, in your response to SS's post about people greeting the helicopters with open arms etc. etc.) this evening. Almost as much so as night before last.
Every once in a while, it would be nice if you didn't try so hard to make others look stupid. I'm just saying.

My comments about the poor uneducated underclass (or whatever it was that mmmm called them) really had nothing to do with the folks on the Gulf Coast and were more sweeping generalizations about the poor uneducated underclass all over America. Of course I feel badly for those folks who didn't have the means to evacuate. And I've been pretty actively involved in some rescue efforts over the last couple of days because I think it's the right thing to do.

But to excuse antisocial behavior, like raping and looting, because someone is a member of the poor uneducated underclass only seems to me to exacerbate the problem.

mmm3587 09-01-2005 10:04 PM

NOLA
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I have no problem with looting to save your family. Thats just survival. But stealing from people who can't protect their homes should earn you a bullet between your eyes.

I wish the best of luck to the people protecting their homes. And I hope they murder every son of a bitch who tries to steal from them.
Exactly. I don't think that anyone is suggesting that looting homes, at any level, is ok. My relatives have already turned lots of people away with warning shots. And they say that the cops are definitely doing some shooting of people who threaten them, too.

At this point, though, protecting stores seems silly. If it's anything needed for survival or anything like that, jesus, let it go. If it's luxury items or money, while it's wrong, I don't think that it really makes sense to expend a lot of resources to protect the assets of absent businesses when the whole region is a disaster area.

ltl/fb 09-01-2005 10:04 PM

NOLA
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I have no problem with looting to save your family. Thats just survival. But stealing from people who can't protect their homes should earn you a bullet between your eyes.

I wish the best of luck to the people protecting their homes. And I hope they murder every son of a bitch who tries to steal from them.
By looting do you mean stores? I don't even really have a problem with people breaking into empty houses to take any food/potable water that is there. I'm not really so big on the stealing TVs, and I kinda wonder where the hell they think they are going to take the stuff they are stealing.

Clothes I think are fair game given that the people I know of who got out have, like, 2 changes of clothes -- I would think people would have had to abandon a bunch of their stuff.

Actually the TVs being stolen kind of make me laugh. Not if guns/violence are involved, but just generally.

sebastian_dangerfield 09-01-2005 10:05 PM

NOLA
 
Quote:

Originally posted by mmm3587
I'm not really that idealistic. There will always be an underclass, and there will always be people who will never make their own lives better. At some level , sure, fuck them. At some point, though, having this many uneducated people, poor people, incarcerated people, etc., starts to weigh on the ability of our country to be productive and lead the world and all that shit.
Not really. Welfare is cheap. Costs us nothing to maintain people with nothing. In fact, we could multiply it several times and it'd still be a minimal cost. Oh, but we're spending a load of money on something else... what was that???? Gimme a sec....

BTW, we spend monthly in Iraq twice as much as the entire bailout packaage Congress is proposing for NO. Keep halliburton fat; fuck the Bayou.

Thank God the only thing the GOP is fucking harder than our country is its own chances in 2006 and 2008.


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