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Gattigap 06-01-2005 07:47 PM

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Originally posted by paigowprincess
Mercifully, this should be the post that makes Slave drop his obsession with me. I just wish he would stop following me around.
FWIW, the new avatar should help with that too.

paigowprincess 06-01-2005 07:49 PM

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Originally posted by Gattigap
FWIW, the new avatar should help with that too.
nevermind

Sidd Finch 06-01-2005 07:51 PM

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Originally posted by paigowprincess
Mercifully, this should be the post that makes Slave drop his obsession with me. I just wish he would stop following me around.

Glad to be of service. Really, this comes from the good and gentle part of my being. Namaste and all that.

Now, I'd better get moving, so Gwinky will date me.

LessinSF 06-01-2005 08:07 PM

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Originally posted by Gattigap
FWIW, the new avatar should help with that too.
Dogpile!

SlaveNoMore 06-01-2005 08:10 PM

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Originally posted by paigowprincess
Mercifully, this should be the post that makes Slave drop his obsession with me. I just wish he would stop following me around.
I thought I was following around the dog.

Easy mistake, I guess, as the similarities are striking

http://www.welaf.com/resources/files/1099054222.jpg

Hank Chinaski 06-01-2005 08:59 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I used to work some with a more senior associate who would make such jokes. After the third or fourth time, starting to feel complicit, I told her that I thought the joke was tasteless and offensive. She stammered a little bit, told me that she was from New York City, where people have lower standards I guess, and from then on avoided me as much as possible. Which was pretty much an excellent outcome.
did she have big tits?

Hank Chinaski 06-01-2005 09:01 PM

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Originally posted by paigowprincess
Does anyone actually know anyone who makes disability jokes? Or is it just too shameful and embarrassing to pull off in real life?
What do you call a quadriplegic boy who falls out a twelth story window?

Mark.

LessinSF 06-01-2005 09:35 PM

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In my final post on the matter, and despite not having heard back from my bookie whether odds will be put up, I am going to handicap the event tomorrow:

1. Marshall Winchester, number 172
http://www.spellingbee.com/05bios/172.JPG

2. Katherine "Katie" Close, number 146
http://www.spellingbee.com/05bios/146.JPG

3. Jack Ausick, number 142
http://www.spellingbee.com/05bios/142.JPG

Hank Chinaski 06-01-2005 09:41 PM

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Originally posted by LessinSF
In my final post on the matter, and despite not having heard back from my bookie whether odds will be put up, I am going to handicap the event tomorrow:

1. Marshall Winchester, number 172
http://www.spellingbee.com/05bios/172.JPG

2. Katherine "Katie" Close, number 146
http://www.spellingbee.com/05bios/146.JPG

3. Jack Ausick, number 142
http://www.spellingbee.com/05bios/142.JPG
European geeks or girls with poor coloring win the spelling bee? Do you long for simpler times?

Boy the way glen Miller played
Songs that made the hit parade
guys like us we had it made
Those were the days


smart money is here:
http://www.spellingbee.com/05bios/127.jpg

Speller No. 127, Nilesh K. Raval

Spend all his time playing video games like your favs? Ummm no.

Nilesh holds a black belt in Tae Kwon Do. He participated in the 2004 national finals

Tyrone Slothrop 06-01-2005 09:47 PM

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never mind

ltl/fb 06-01-2005 11:36 PM

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Wait! I've reconsidered my stance on that issue.
What? Since when?

ThurgreedMarshall 06-01-2005 11:55 PM

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Originally posted by paigowprincess
MR isnt into rimming?
Shouldn't MR be referred to from now on as "Mr. Lipschitz?"

TM

ThurgreedMarshall 06-02-2005 12:24 AM

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Have you ever known someone who repeatedly makes jokes about another person's physical disabilities (or race, or whatever) to you even though you find those jokes to be in poor taste? If so, what do you do about it? Do you repeatedly tell that person how tasteless the jokes are or do you just turn a deaf ear? At what point do you become complicit by allowing the jokes?

I had a boss who would tell racist and homophobic jokes at client lunches. What do you do in situations like that?

Just curious.
If it's a superior, I usually go with, "I wonder what you're saying about me when I'm not around." If it isn't a superior I say, "You sound like a real fucking asshole."

TM

ThurgreedMarshall 06-02-2005 12:25 AM

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Originally posted by paigowprincess
Just keep doing what you are doing. Remember, if someone's self- esteem is so low they have to resort to such classless tactics to make themselves feel better about their lot in life, they are to be ignoreed and silently pitied.
You should get that inscribed on your Puerto Rican dice.

TM

Anne Elk 06-02-2005 12:27 AM

spelling bee
 
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Originally posted by LessinSF
In my final post on the matter, and despite not having heard back from my bookie whether odds will be put up, I am going to handicap the event tomorrow:

1. Marshall Winchester, number 172
http://www.spellingbee.com/05bios/172.JPG

2. Katherine "Katie" Close, number 146
http://www.spellingbee.com/05bios/146.JPG

3. Jack Ausick, number 142
http://www.spellingbee.com/05bios/142.JPG
Less, if you set this for next year, I'm in.

Hank Chinaski 06-02-2005 12:29 AM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
I don't get it.
http://www.zelnorm.com/images/headers/symptoms_mean.jpg

ThurgreedMarshall 06-02-2005 12:29 AM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
My son has a friend who is constantly making vaguely anti-black racist statements. Once he leaves I try and point out to my son that the things the kid says are wrong, but my kid sees them as more innocent. kids are tough to raise. maybe I should call the kid on them......
Are you serious? "Maybe?" Am I whiffing or something?

You should announce to that little brat that racism and comments like these about any race won't be permitted in your house and if he can't control himself, you will usher him out with a foot in the ass delivered with all deliberate speed.

Then you should school your kid on the definition of "innocent."

TM

mmm3587 06-02-2005 12:32 AM

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Originally posted by paigowprincess
Does anyone actually know anyone who makes disability jokes? Or is it just too shameful and embarrassing to pull off in real life?
Assuming that this is a serious question, I think it's pretty common. How often do you hear people say "what a retard!" or "I just had an alzheimer's moment!"? A lot more often that you hear people say "Kike!" or "Faggot!" these days.

At the very least, it's among the most common -ism in a professional environment where no one makes that many racist, sexist or homophobic comments anymore.

ltl/fb 06-02-2005 12:42 AM

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Originally posted by mmm3587 no one makes that many racist, sexist or homophobic comments anymore.
hahahahahahahahhahahahaha

mmm3587 06-02-2005 12:56 AM

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hahahahahahahahhahahahaha
You are such a one-trick prole. What don't you understand about "that many" meaning less than there used to be in a professional setting? Or do you really think that things are the way that they were, say, even in the early 90s when it comes to, for example, comments about "homos fucking each other up the ass" and "catching AIDS"? Law's always been touchy-feely; ask dtb what the (straight, white, conservative) boys on the desk are like even today.

Replaced_Texan 06-02-2005 12:59 AM

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Originally posted by mmm3587
You are such a one-trick prole. What don't you understand about "that many" meaning less than there used to be in a professional setting? Or do you really think that things are the way that they were, say, even in the early 90s when it comes to, for example, comments about "homos fucking each other up the ass" and "catching AIDS"? Law's always been touchy-feely; ask dtb what the (straight, white, conservative) boys on the desk are like even today.
I'm pretty sure they were saying shit like that on the floor of the Texas State Legislature earlier this session.

notcasesensitive 06-02-2005 02:01 AM

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Originally posted by mmm3587
You are such a one-trick prole. What don't you understand about "that many" meaning less than there used to be in a professional setting? Or do you really think that things are the way that they were, say, even in the early 90s when it comes to, for example, comments about "homos fucking each other up the ass" and "catching AIDS"? Law's always been touchy-feely; ask dtb what the (straight, white, conservative) boys on the desk are like even today.
Yeah. Umm. In some parts of the country, the homo jokes are quite prevalent. Even among the enlightened associate types.

str8outavannuys 06-02-2005 03:09 AM

This post is not about homos or kikes
 
If you're going to listen to one str8 rec'mendation this year, this is the one.

Tomorrow night on Bravo, 11 p.m. (set your Tivos), it's THE DAN BAND in a concert movie directed by Steven Spielberg, or maybe he's producing it, I don't know exactly. What I do know is that I've seen them in concert a bunch and they're a blast.

By the way, these are the guys who were the wedding band in Old School ("Turn around, every now and then I get a little bit terrified/I see that fuckin' look in your eyes") and the Bar Mitzvah band in Starsky and Hutch.

ThurgreedMarshall 06-02-2005 09:06 AM

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I do the same thing with idiots who tell gay jokes. And don't get me started on Aristocratic Mexicans.
How aristocratic are they?

TM

Hank Chinaski 06-02-2005 09:39 AM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Are you serious? "Maybe?" Am I whiffing or something?

You should announce to that little brat that racism and comments like these about any race won't be permitted in your house and if he can't control himself, you will usher him out with a foot in the ass delivered with all deliberate speed.

Then you should school your kid on the definition of "innocent."

TM
Not a whiff, the question was poorly stated but serious. The operative word in my post was "vaguely". The kid doesn't say overtly racist things, it's more like things where any one of them might seem not much, but once you hear a half dozen you start thinking something is up with him.

Like kids make fun of other kids. When he talks about other kids that are black the way he makes fun of them is a little different than if he was dogging a white kid, but it is something you don't really catch at first.

My kid would reject the overtly racist (I'm confident) I worry more about the understated.

ThurgreedMarshall 06-02-2005 09:50 AM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Not a whiff, the question was poorly stated but serious. The operative word in my post was "vaguely". The kid doesn't say overtly racist things, it's more like things where any one of them might seem not much, but once you hear a half dozen you start thinking something is up with him.

Like kids make fun of other kids. When he talks about other kids that are black the way he makes fun of them is a little different than if he was dogging a white kid, but it is something you don't really catch at first.

My kid would reject the overtly racist (I'm confident) I worry more about the understated.
Understood.

That's tough. If I were you, I would talk to my kid, quite seriously about his friend's attitude. If you sit him down and point out your concerns, using examples and say something like, "He's your friend, I'm not going to tell you how to deal with him, but I think you should keep your eye open for behavior that doesn't fit with how I know you deal with people who are different than you," you empower your kid and I bet he would take it upon himself to straighten shit out on his own or at least be better equipped to define what is actually 'innocent' and what isn't. It ain't a black-or-white world (so to speak) and developing an ear for that kind of stuff, even though it would seem obvious to adults, is difficult. Good luck.

On another note, is anyone else watching 'Bullshit' with Penn and Teller on HBO? It's shot to the top of my list with a bullet.

TM

Did you just call me Coltrane? 06-02-2005 10:50 AM

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Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
I pointed out that members of my family are black. I guess I just felt that would personalize the point for him, but I felt like a pussy for doing it. Like if members of my family weren't black, I wouldn't care. Anyhoo, it shut him up, so I suppose that is good.
2. Usually works.

It's different with the 70 and older crowd. They don't realize they're being offensive, so I just let them be. Old dog, new tricks and such.

Hank Chinaski 06-02-2005 11:09 AM

This post is not about homos or kikes
 
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Originally posted by str8outavannuys
If you're going to listen to one str8 rec'mendation this year, this is the one.

Tomorrow night on Bravo, 11 p.m. (set your Tivos), it's THE DAN BAND in a concert movie directed by Steven Spielberg, or maybe he's producing it, I don't know exactly. What I do know is that I've seen them in concert a bunch and they're a blast.

By the way, these are the guys who were the wedding band in Old School ("Turn around, every now and then I get a little bit terrified/I see that fuckin' look in your eyes") and the Bar Mitzvah band in Starsky and Hutch.
My ex-aunt is in Degrassi- Next Generation.

Not Bob 06-02-2005 11:32 AM

Eureka!
 
From overheard in new york:

Guy on cell: She is worse than blow, man...I can never have sex with anyone else ever again now that I've had a taste of paradise.

--Starbucks, 43rd & 3rd

Bad_Rich_Chic 06-02-2005 12:20 PM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
On another note, is anyone else watching 'Bullshit' with Penn and Teller on HBO? It's shot to the top of my list with a bullet.

TM
I love this show. It's on Showtime, though. (Mondays at 10!)

spoiler?

The one on gay marriage/families was particularly great, not least because the addressed one of my longstanding questions: How the hell do they get these assholes to say such rEdiculous stuff on camera? Answer: apparently, they think they're bullet proof. I guess this doesn't surprise me.

I was somewhat disappointed with their supposed disembowelment of Mother Theresa, Ghandi and the Dalai Lama. While I always adore seeing Christopher Hitchens (who will ever be in my heart for coining the phrase "a simpering bambi narcisisst and a theiving Albanian dwarf" to describe the princess of wales and Mother T.), I mean, damn, I could have given them better dirt (and backed it up) on Mother Theresa than they used. And the best dirt on Ghandi they can come up with is "he liked to lie around naked with girls"? WTF? Who cares? They do this themselves in half of their episodes. Enemas? Someone send them a netti. They should have focused more - a whole ep on MT would have been better.

BR(The description of Richard Gere as the only person the DL could find more stupid and gullible than the CIA was pretty good, though)C

dtb 06-02-2005 12:23 PM

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Originally posted by mmm3587
You are such a one-trick prole. What don't you understand about "that many" meaning less than there used to be in a professional setting? Or do you really think that things are the way that they were, say, even in the early 90s when it comes to, for example, comments about "homos fucking each other up the ass" and "catching AIDS"? Law's always been touchy-feely; ask dtb what the (straight, white, conservative) boys on the desk are like even today.
You are right that they are straight, white and conservative -- to a one; however, I've got to say the jokes and funnin' do not tend to be about gays or minorities. They tend to make fun of each other (e.g., this guy's bald, the other guy's hair looks like Donald Trump's, that guy is a bad dresser, this other one can't bench his own weight, blah blah blah). A few times (maybe?), I've heard references to "that is so gay" in a derogatory way, but that's about as bad as it gets (in front of me, anyway).

In fact, it sort of surprised me (the dearth of homophobic jokes). For a while, I thought this one guy on the desk was gay, and that's why the other guys sort of kept a lid on it. But then I found out the guy's married (to a woman), so that wasn't it.

Some examples of yesterday's joking:

Someone asked the others to guess what was the largest litter of puppies ever whelped. There was a lot of shouting about what the number was. When someone got the answer (I think it was 23 or something), someone said, "Wow, that poor dog." The desk wag said, "Yeah, she must have been a real bitch." (Ba-dum-bum tsssss.)

Also, a bald and not-bald guy got into a mock argument about baldness (or something equally relevant). Someone else asked, "What's going on here?" and the bald guy responded, "George and I broke up."

Later there was much merriment when the guys were shouting out of silly names and silly book titles/authors (e.g. Phil McCrevice and "Under the Bleachers" by Seymour Butts). It's very third-grade stuff.

ThurgreedMarshall 06-02-2005 12:41 PM

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Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
I was somewhat disappointed with their supposed disembowelment of Mother Theresa, Ghandi and the Dalai Lama. While I always adore seeing Christopher Hitchens (who will ever be in my heart for coining the phrase "a simpering bambi narcisisst and a theiving Albanian dwarf" to describe the princess of wales and Mother T.), I mean, damn, I could have given them better dirt (and backed it up) on Mother Theresa than they used.
Well, lay it on us, then. I agree, there should have been more meat on the bone, but not knowing shit about Mother Theresa, it was interesting to see what she spent the money on and her philosophy on suffering, even if it was a highly simplified version.

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Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
And the best dirt on Ghandi they can come up with is "he liked to lie around naked with girls"? WTF? Who cares? They do this themselves in half of their episodes. Enemas? Someone send them a netti. They should have focused more - a whole ep on MT would have been better.
Three things. One, wasn't it underage girls that he was "laying around" with? Two, I thought they did a good job of exposing his racism. Three, the point seemed to be that this holier-than-thou attitude was bullshit. So, the fact that P&T lay around with naked girls, the same as Ghandi seemed to do, means that he isn't really holier than them (or anyone else). Hell, that's partly what convinced Malcolm X that the Honorable Elijah Muhammad was full of it.

TM

Shape Shifter 06-02-2005 12:41 PM

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Originally posted by dtb
You are right that they are straight, white and conservative -- to a one; however, I've got to say the jokes and funnin' do not tend to be about gays or minorities. They tend to make fun of each other (e.g., this guy's bald, the other guy's hair looks like Donald Trump's, that guy is a bad dresser, this other one can't bench his own weight, blah blah blah). A few times (maybe?), I've heard references to "that is so gay" in a derogatory way, but that's about as bad as it gets (in front of me, anyway).

In fact, it sort of surprised me (the dearth of homophobic jokes). For a while, I thought this one guy on the desk was gay, and that's why the other guys sort of kept a lid on it. But then I found out the guy's married (to a woman), so that wasn't it.

Some examples of yesterday's joking:

Someone asked the others to guess what was the largest litter of puppies ever whelped. There was a lot of shouting about what the number was. When someone got the answer (I think it was 23 or something), someone said, "Wow, that poor dog." The desk wag said, "Yeah, she must have been a real bitch." (Ba-dum-bum tsssss.)

Also, a bald and not-bald guy got into a mock argument about baldness (or something equally relevant). Someone else asked, "What's going on here?" and the bald guy responded, "George and I broke up."

Later there was much merriment when the guys were shouting out of silly names and silly book titles/authors (e.g. Phil McCrevice and "Under the Bleachers" by Seymour Butts). It's very third-grade stuff.
The Man Show really went downhill after Kimmel and Carolla left.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 06-02-2005 12:47 PM

Monday
 
Does anyone still live in Dallas?

PM me if so.

Mister_Ruysbroeck 06-02-2005 12:48 PM

Because I like to share
 
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Originally posted by paigowprincess
It would be kinda cool to be an old, rich guy who just keeps building up his own personal army. I think I would run off and buy some island for my tribe. Import a few member of the outside gene pool for flava.
That might not work, but it sounds fun.

taxwonk 06-02-2005 12:54 PM

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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I went to check and see how our kids are doing. Only two Texans out so far. And fuck me, those are hard words.

I wonder if they're handing out Xanax to prevent fainting after last year's Drama!

mmmmmm, Xanax.

taxwonk 06-02-2005 01:04 PM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Shouldn't MR be referred to from now on as "Mr. Lipschitz?"

TM
That post made me Ralph.

taxwonk 06-02-2005 01:09 PM

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Originally posted by Not Bob
From overheard in new york:

Guy on cell: She is worse than blow, man...I can never have sex with anyone else ever again now that I've had a taste of paradise.

--Starbucks, 43rd & 3rd
Some day, that's going to make the cutest fucking engagement story ever told.



Pun intended.

ltl/fb 06-02-2005 01:14 PM

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Originally posted by Not Bob
From overheard in new york:

Guy on cell: She is worse than blow, man...I can never have sex with anyone else ever again now that I've had a taste of paradise.

--Starbucks, 43rd & 3rd
Awwww, gwink's non-bf made "overheard in new york"!

greatwhitenorthchick 06-02-2005 01:21 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Awwww, gwink's non-bf made "overheard in new york"!
You are so sweet.

Actually, and I don't just say this to toot my own horn or to point out that men are full of shit, I say it because it's just become topical, last night he told me that I was "the best lay in the entire fucking universe." So cute.*


*I thought that was a bit of an exaggeration. There are probably six-breasted she-creatures on the planet krakow that are better lays than I am. But you never know.


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