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What about "cocksucker?" I say it all the time as an epithet, and my gay friends disagree on whether it is inappropriate or not.

Actually, I don't really care since I am fairly incapable of not uttering it. What bothers me more is that it should be a complimentary term of endearment, and yet I don't use it that way.

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Thanks, but it sure is dark.

TM

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Then you shouldn't have started the argument, and continued it, and tried to close it in this manner, which is the lamest bullshit attempt at a last word ever invented.

I would call you a pussy, and I wouldn't mean man-octopussy, but as Less's cocksucker post suggests, why should this be an insult?

(Ok, Sidd, go ahead and call me hormonal.)

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Fair 'nough, but they didn't pick the location that would have created the greatest shock for their audience. Everyone basically expects the urban poor to suffer outrageously in India.
Sorry, without Our Lady of the Variety Pack around to remind me, I thought it was all about me.
Well, (i) I though it was effective, but I wouldn't rate it as "very," (ii) given that their audience is more you and me than people fond of admiring the holier-than-thous of the world, I think the segment could have been better aimed for their actual audience, and (iii) I thought including Ghandi (horndog with a school girl/enema fetish) and the Dalai Lama (basically a later-day deposed Shah in an orange sheet) underplayed by association the extent to which Mother Theresa was, not just not-holier-than-thou, but a real monster who not only caused but openly rejoyced in the suffering and death of multitudes.

I love the show, mind you, I just thought that one was weaker than most of the others. The circumcision season opener, for example, totally kicked ass. The old dude hanging dumbells from his dork was a complete riot.

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I said something like "there aren't that many racist/sexist/orientation jokes anymore," trying to make the point that disability-deriding humor is still considered ok, even though other similar kinds of humor have decreased somewhat. In my mind, it read as "compared to how it used to be, there aren't _that_ many racist/sexist/orientation jokes anymore."

And I stand by that. Do they stick out more today? Sure. Is the objective number of them anywhere close? I don't think so. Does it mean that we should stop trying to get rid of that kind of inventive? No, we should keep trying. But my original point was that making fun of disabilities is still generally considered to be an ok thing to do, which, in my opinion, is not true of the other kind of humor.

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I am continually amazed by the people here in the Midwest who don't realize that phrases like "jewing down the price" or "we got gypped" are ethnic slurs.

In 1994, when I lived in Spain, I was explaining to a friend about how I had to carry laundry for a considerable distance and that is why my shoulder ached and he said, "Debes comprar un negro." I was utterly floored.

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Hmm. I thought in my initial post when I said "try spending some time in Texas or the Deep South" (emphasis added) that it was pretty clear that Texas was included in the area I was discussing. Whatever. Texas and the Deep South are now bastions of enlightenment. Hurray!

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No. but he might meet Tyrone Slothrop later this month.

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Depends, I guess, on what you do and where you do it. A colleague recently remarked how she hates going over to the AIDS hospital, and she doesn't understand why gay health care practitioners don't "change their behavior" if they see HIV infection all day long. Struck me more as ignorant than hateful, but it makes me wicked uncomfortable to talk about my brother around her.

That said, I don't think my brother or any of my gay friends have too hard of a time of it here in Houston. People are always shocked about that, and I don't think that 20, 30 years ago that would have been the case outside of Montrose.

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I just hate everybody. It's much easier that way. I'm pretty much the only enlightened monkey on the planet. You humans and your petty distinctions.

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A couple of weeks ago, I was driving somewhere when, from the car seat in the back, the 2-year-old Brazenette piped up with "Cocksucker. Cocksucker! Cocksucker!!", each "cocksucker" louder and more drawn out than the one before.

I do not know where she learned this word. If she had chosen "motherfucker" instead, I would have known she learned it from me.

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I rarely (except on these boards) hear people make fun of people with disabilities. That is why I asked my initial question yesterday, in fact (which started this thread). Not saying this to be argumentative*, but it is true. Maybe I've lived in bastions of disability rights enlightenment.




*everyone here knows, of course, that I would never do that.

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Are you sure the little slut-to-be doesn't have Tourette's?

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I heard "he jewed me" and "kike" before I knew what a Jew or Judaism was (well before I knew it was offensive). And we played "smear the queer" too. The neighbor kids called bottle rockets with the stem cut off "n***** chasers". The midwest, just like the south, is full of ignorant hillybilly redneck crackers. It's improved, but not by much.

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Or places chock-full o' Methodists.

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Are you saying puertorican dice arent classy?

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I used to say cocksucker a lot. I've moved on to motherfucker. Sometimes I like to space the two words apart like "mother.....fucker" if someone really pisses me off. God damn cocksucking motherfucker is also a favorite, so I guess I haven't totally parted with cocksucker.

eta now I feel all warm and fuzzy because b n'b and I both like motherfucker.

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Maybe I should move this to the LWK board, but seriously, what did you do? Did you burst out laughing? It must have sounded so funny in a cute little 2 year old's voice. I don't know that I could seriously pull of "Now Brazenette, we don't say that word, it's vulgar, and people will think I'm not raising you right. Not that I care what those motherfuckers think, but still, for mommy's sake, refrain."

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I'm right there with you. I've tried to move over to "motherfucker" but it doesn't have the same feel.

And I suck cock (as long as you're not forcing my head).

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Hey, making fun of disabilities isn't any funnier than making fun of someone's gender/race/sexual orientation. Just ask mmmmm.

And just you wait, girlfriend, until that fetus of yours can talk. You'll see. I'll laugh.

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I sometimes still say "brother trucking grass pole" in polite company.

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I did what all good mothers would do. I laughed diet coke out my nose, tried not to let her see how funny I thought it was, and tried to ignore it.

I think it worked.

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Oh, right, I meant to say lesbian to be.



(See, now that would be funny. Her first curse word was cocksucker, and she grows up never to do it. Hahahahahaha!!!!)

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Wow -- it's like I'm looking in a mirror when I see you. Except I say it as "goddamned motherfucking cocksucker." Usually while driving.

Well, that and the whole Audrey Hepburn thing. And the legs.

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I'm still getting a lot of mileage out of "asshat." Am I hopelessly out of date?

I recently heard someone call someone else a "fornicating fibrulator." (I'm 95% sure it was fibrulator.) I have no clue what it means, but I liked the sound of it. It gives me an image of someone being electrocuted by their vibrator.

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No, no, no. All lesbians suck on the dildo.

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Dallas has a thriving gay community too. And I loved hanging out in Oak Lawn. However the overall integration into the rest of the community was not so good.

I always thought that the reason that Dallas had a strong gay community (in certain areas) was because of the level of bigotry gay people faced not just in Dallas, but in the region. I think that gay kids growing up in Texas, Arkansas and Oklahoma flocked to Dallas and Houston and built up their gay communities because it was so harsh for them where they came from.

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I'm pretty sure that I do. I work in healthcare. Everyone is fucked up in some way here.

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What's so bad about saying "let's not argue about this anymore, we don't even really disagree"?

Do you want to know why I made the original statement? Because I do a lot of work with people who have disabilities and I see how much hateful shit they put up with on a daily basis, and I wish that people would consider the way they often get treated to be as disgusting as the way that, say, some minorities often get treated. I personally find "retard" just as hateful as "nigger." That was the point; I didn't even want to get into all this racial stuff, and I think that it would been avoided if I had just said "compared to the way that it used to be, there aren't _that_ many of those comments anymore."

If you want to turn it into a post about what a bastard I am, fine, do it. Masturbate while you think about it over the weekend. Have fun. Let it make your life happier.

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There is a one-trick prole around here, but it aint her. She is more sandy vagina.

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This might be the only chance I have not to have to live through the prom night Sebby has predicted for her....

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Ummm, dear, Daddy didn't mind the slur being used. He just couldn't stand for his little boy to be the "queer" every 6th turn. And as to your old neighborhood? Detroit proper voted by 60% to ban gay marriage.

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Yes, but has Guy on cell ever been to him?

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What does this mean?

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Maybe so, but I think what they were drawing attention to was the fact that she raised all this money by playing on the conditions of the people she was conciously keeping in squalor and then taking that money and using it for something completely different. So, showing the worst conditions, in the places where she spent the majority of her time served them well.

I can agree with that. But I don't think they wanted to bombard you with the hypocrisy or atrocities to show you just how unholier-than-thou any one person in that group was. I think that they wanted to point out examples of how these people are just like you or worse -- the theory being, if you can show that someone who is revered by so many people as beyond reproach is no better than you in many ways, you will see that holding them up as holier-than-us is bullshit.

I thought the one about colleges was the worst. They really didn't say anything besides, "college is too pc." And my attitude on that is, big fucking deal. Reality comes with the diploma, four short years away.

TM

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I can't heeeeeeear you.

TM

(And it's dark.)

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Not really, but I will note that once again, you turn the argument into something it's not. I never said you were a bastard, I said you used a lame technique. Bt if it makes you feel important to think that your image rises to the level of bastard in my imagination, or anyone else's, so be it. Let it make your life happier. And I believe I'm mainly correct when I say that nobody here , other than yourself and possibly Sidd, would masturbate to thoughts even remotely associated with you, because you come across like someone who is generally ignored in real life, yet feels that he shouldn't be because of his obvious way with words,overall sense of fun, enlightened attitude, and vigorous driving skills.

Grrrrr, tiger.

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1) Why did he get down-graded to non-bf? (hi Mr. Lipschitz!)
2) I would not be too psyched to be referred to as a lay. And definitely don't call me Mrs. Blowjob Camel.

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You find Judaism offensive?

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You sure seem to take this all pretty personally for someone who claims not to be gay. So, how is Mr. Beard, er, Mr. Man?