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Please note that it's not running on TV in Pennsylvania in October. |
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OK. That’s moronic. But that’s not why the ad was made. I think that’s your dumb assessment of why the ad was made. I think Ty is correct in assessing the ad was made to get the base lathered. I disagree with him about whether the base in rust belt states cares about impeachment. He makes a good point that I am perhaps too certain in making an argument in the absolute where the strategy is all about degree. There he draws blood and makes a good point. You remain incoherent or deluded or both in suggesting this is targeted at senators. |
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I think the real fear among those claiming concern Trump is an existential threat is that the stabilized system that has held together a system that delivered predictably for them is now shown to be bankrupt and designed to funnel money upward to professional classes like us at cost to those below. Between Bernie and Trump, they’ve shown neoliberal economics practiced by both right and left does not value or care about the success of the middle. The little guy is learning how we of the top 10% have directed all the gravy to ourselves. Your harping on 3rd patty voters is infused with a lot of self interest. Some see opportunity in change, in entropy. So please, don’t bullshit about this or any other time not being one in which to take chances. (I realize you’re not making that explicit point, but commenting that it’s the point of the ad. But you have made that point endlessly since 2016.) ETA: I’m sympathetic, by the way. Keeping a status quo that delivers for the top 1-20% at cost of higher taxes to placate those losing out below is usually a good bet. You make far more on the gains accruing to asset holders than the taxes you pay to keep those rendered redundant by the trade policies and tech that delivers for you displaces. And you get to say you favor safety nets and you pay your “fair share.” And when the losers complain, you can tell them Adam Smith says that, while they’re fucked, their grandkids will enjoy the jobs of the future! You know why so many middle class voters embrace Bernie and Trump? Neither is slow playing them. Trump’s actually been crazy enough to try to keep his promises, and Bernie’s admitting the middle is so fucked it needs democratic socialism. We who tsk tsk about how we need a sensible moderate like Joe are very obviously stating, “we want to keep our franchise, at the top.” I don’t think the real middle class person is nonplussed about Trump. I think the somewhat affluent but still-has-to-work person who benefited from prior economic policies, particularly trade, is the person who’s exercised here. |
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Slave...and America...win again
I'm not bothering to read any of the pre-posted tripe. Sebby, did someone literally pay you off? Hank, you grifting again?
Americans just won again. And Trump is now assured another 5 years. God bless America (at least ours. You socialist DBs can all fuck off) SlaveNo(yes, I'm indeed laughing at all of you)More |
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That's what's going on almost everywhere among the people who have brains, isn't it? "Oh shit... This fucking guy is fucking with trade, which fucks with finance, which fucks with profits that accrue to people like me. He's risking the future income of all but the very tippy tippy top of the top 10%." The desperately poor are too damn busy trying to survive to write articles critiquing Trump. It's all done by an educated class, the one to which you and I belong. You know these people. They know that questioning neoliberal policies is a dangerous heresy to a system that butters their bread. This explains why you'll rarely hear a poor union steward griping about Trump. (To the contrary, they'll privately vote for him, because his economy and his tax plan has led to an uptick in building projects that profit them.) You won't hear a home health aide cry about Trump. Your plumber won't decry him. Your dentist won't. Nor will any real estate agent. Who rants about him loudest? Blue state urban and suburban professionals and govt workers. Why is that? Is it because they're the smartest? The "elites"? No. (They like to think that, asserting that Trumpkins are all bitter anti-intellectuals.) But no, they're neither elites nor serious intellectuals. The real elites are far above them on the class ladder (and they laugh at them). It's because these blue and purple state upper middle class folk have skin in Trump's game. He fucks with their taxes. He potentially imperils with their livelihood. And he's dumb. Oh yes... He's dumb. You cannot argue that. Cunning, ruthless, but also incredibly dumb. (He's winning everything because he's impossible to defend against. It's like playing basketball with a 7'1 guy who's drunk and on crystal meth. Shooting from perimeter? Driving? About to elbow you in the face? Throwing a skyhook from half court? WTF is next?) Being dumb, he offends people who think being smart, and holding the values de jour of folks who think the New Yorker is well written, is of paramount importance. That he succeeds infuriates them. I can say this because he infuriates me. I can only tolerate the man because I look at him as fascinating proof that being smart doesn't really matter all that much in politics or most businesses. He's our Chauncey Gardiner... And it's so comically crazy, he becomes tolerable. But I know people who know him, and I've even met some of his family, and I Would Not Be Interested in Spending Time With Him. At All. Nor would you. So if you think I'm paid off and buying into the critiques I read here, I'm not. I agree with some, I disagree with others. I'm not aggressively for or against any candidate, really. My only interest is disintegrating all pretexts, of candidates and their voters. |
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But we really didn't need it. |
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Or, yes, the pointless trade war that he's both losing that is hurting farmers, workers and consumers. There's nothing this guy is doing that is undermining the status quo in a way that helps the professional classes. Heck, his Assistant Attorney General for Antitrust recently said that over-enforcement risks harm to the merger markets, like that's a thing we're supposed to care about. |
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And we don't like very much that we're not respected as much as we were. We told everyone he was going to ruin everything (I believed that). Turns out the world didn't end, and the economy has actually done well under him. (Credit a considerable amount of that to Obama, but credit it also quite significantly to Trump.) ...Despite his doing a bunch of things we said would ruin it. We liked being Brahmin. And now we're shown that a common lunatic can do all sorts of things from which we'd recoil and drive the economy even higher. Kinda reminds me of Reagan. One can argue, of course, that like Reagan we're just running up huge debts. That's a good critique. But the reality seems to be, and you've said this many times yourself, public debt isn't a big deal. You're in good company, with Larry Summers and Joseph Stiglitz. If it was a good idea when they floated it years ago, why isn't it a good idea now? (Lemme guess... Because they said it should be done via govt spending, stimulus, rather than tax cuts. I'm not sure. Govt spending hasn't historically primed the pump very well since the New Deal, and even then it was temporary. Tax cuts, OTOH, seem to work. It's crazy, I know. But we're in crazy times, and we live grossly beyond our means anyway, so why not go Strangelove. Learn to Stop Worrying and Love the Deficit?) |
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Then they'll get bored and ask for Paigow stories. |
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Suspect Sebby will applaud this for discouraging criminal investigations, even though it obviously increases the politicization of DOJ.
Unrelatedly: Also for Sebby, this re Michael Lind (thread links to interview). |
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