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You don't like it? Push the boulder. The market cares not. |
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"[W]hen a man knows he is to be hanged in a fortnight, it concentrates his mind wonderfully.” ― Samuel Johnson. When one is reprieved, I can't imagine there's any greater recognition of the need to live one's life urgently, indulgently. |
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This author is saying certain types of uses of a term are beyond the pale. Um, no. All is fair in total war. I don’t like it either, but the market cares not what I think any more than it does what the author thinks. It’s quite clever, really. Mobs figure out how to pressure corporate lackeys to disown speakers they don’t like. The opposing side finds a way to hack the mob by using their own terms to delegitimize them. One hack returned with another. Result? Extremes cancelling each other. Maybe the marketplace is working just fine? |
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Also, your summary of what Elizabeth Spiers shows a poor grasp of what she said. Hint: More apt to say that she is engaging in the exchange of ideas than that she is trying to destroy you. Maybe it would be easier to participate in the intellectual exchange if you weren't sheltering in a ditch to avoid the forces of "wokeism"? The market does care what she thinks, fwiw, even if you don't. She makes a living from it, if not a killing, pun intended. |
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Within these highly aggressive market behaviors you also find another nasty tactic - turning the other side’s buzzwords into insults. Making the very term around which they rally a pejorative to the majority of society. These are both free speech. They are also hacks of the system of discourse normal people have traditionally observed. They are tricks, devices, and they preclude the exchange of useful free expression. And she’s a blogger. No killings. |
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OTOH, when a person says something about race (or anything, really) and in reply, another person calls for that person to be boycotted, or to lose their job, or to be socially ostracized, that is not traditional free speech. It is still free speech, of course. Just not enlightened, traditional, classically understood free speech. It is not engagement, it is certainly not criticism. It fits the analogy of being a "total war" response. Quote:
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I responded by stating that she's missing an obvious reason for its being stolen (which is a critique of her). My criticism was that, to be woke is to weaponize expression. The woke have been some of the loudest voices for boycotting or firing, rather than engaging, speech they do not like. When this occurs, one cannot complain when his opponents start using similarly extreme bad faith tactics, like stealing his buzzwords and turning them into insults. I don't know how she misses this, or where she finds the temerity and lack of self awareness to scold people for using the term as an insult. She actually seems offended by it. Welcome to the war, Liz. Nobody likes it, but if neither side is willing to drop their extreme responses to each other, expect it to escalate. (One wonders if she'd be similarly dismayed at people crying for firings and boycotts. Underdog Bias seems to permeate all these arguments. Those perceived to be on the short end of the power dynamic are allowed to engage in extreme responses, but those on the other end may not.) |
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