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Originally posted by sgtclub
I'm not sure I see a difference between someone in US controlled waters and US controlled land. Is there something special about land?
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I see none, either. I was making the point that this occurred in territory where there is no doubt that U.S. law/Consitutiton governed.
I have no time to craft a detailed or thoughtful response -- on to another meeting, but . . .
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Originally posted by sgtclub
You seem to site this as a throw away. I view this as the paramount factor.
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Its not a throw-away. It is the background, and I propose a particular approach that could accomodate many/most of those concerns.
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Originally posted by sgtclub
Yes, is is. It is not "our" civil liberties, it is the civil liberties of a handful of people who have sought to bring down the very free society that we cherish. I can't get all worked up about this given the limited application to US citizens and the alleged conduct of those citizens.
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Holy shit. Wow. Your faith in the good intentions and infallibility of our law enforcement and intelligence services is almost touching, in a naive sort of way. So . . you'd make one heck of juror, Hmmmm?
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