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Old 06-14-2004, 05:49 PM   #2215
Secret_Agent_Man
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The Padilla Case

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Originally posted by sgtclub
I'm not sure I see a difference between someone in US controlled waters and US controlled land. Is there something special about land?
I see none, either. I was making the point that this occurred in territory where there is no doubt that U.S. law/Consitutiton governed.

I have no time to craft a detailed or thoughtful response -- on to another meeting, but . . .

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You seem to site this as a throw away. I view this as the paramount factor.
Its not a throw-away. It is the background, and I propose a particular approach that could accomodate many/most of those concerns.
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Yes, is is. It is not "our" civil liberties, it is the civil liberties of a handful of people who have sought to bring down the very free society that we cherish. I can't get all worked up about this given the limited application to US citizens and the alleged conduct of those citizens.
Holy shit. Wow. Your faith in the good intentions and infallibility of our law enforcement and intelligence services is almost touching, in a naive sort of way. So . . you'd make one heck of juror, Hmmmm?

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