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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
But I don't think it hinges on materiality, which is a different standard than mere probitive value. If I lie about thing A, it goes to my credibility on thing B, but it doesn't always make it material within the meaning of perjury law --- it has to be material to the claim at issue, not the credibility of the witness. Otherwise, every lie under oath would be material, and that ain't so.
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I use material in the securities law way - i.e., it is material is a reasonable investor [juror] would want to know the information before making an investment decision [rendering a verdict].
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What kind of a slap on the wrist do members of this administration deserve, hmmmm? None, I suspect. Personally, I would go for the really rough stuff, but I still don't think it's an impeachment matter. Impeachment isn't about personnel discipline or "sending a message" to make the president straighten up and fly right; it's about hating your horse so much you're willing to change midstream, which right now your party doesn't think is so hot an idea vis-a-vis the current president. Impeachment is bad for the country, but sometimes it's better than the alternative. Not so with Clinton. Even Hank agrees with me on this one.
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What have they done wrong that is not simply policy related?
