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Old 06-17-2004, 08:47 PM   #11
sgtclub
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There He Goes Again

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Only the sense that there were also connections between Al Qaeda and the U.S., or Al Qaeda and Saudi Arabia, and Al Qaeda and any other country in the Middle East. Maybe not Israel, I'll grant you.
Untrue. There was far more than that, though how much more and whether it was nefarious enough is still cloudy in my mind.

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Find me where I said "solely." To the contrary, I recognize that the administration floated more than one justification. I happen to think that WMD were most important to most Americans, but 9/11 upset a lot of people, as you may have noticed.
fair enough.

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Read Kaplan's piece and tell me where I'm wrong. Bush et al. have, over a long period of time, made statements about Iraq and Al Qaeda that, while allowing the sort of wiggle room you pointed to, were plainly designed to leave people with the impression that there was some there there when, as the (bi-partisan) 9/11 commission just pointed out, it was not so. He's still at it. Are you too simple-minded to perceive what they're up to? Or do you not think the regular statements over many months make for a "sustained" campaign?
I disagree with you on the reasons for the wiggle room. I think they really believe all this and have evidence to back it up, but perhaps not beyond a reasonable doubt, which apparently is what is needed these days.
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