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Old 06-23-2004, 06:20 PM   #2836
Tyrone Slothrop
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Let's get ready to Rummmmmmmmmsfelllllllllllllllllllld!

put aside your "lied to get us into Iraq" schtick- that is played and no one is moving there-


Ruy Teixeira on a LA Times poll from earlier this June: "Finally, note that Bush has ... only a one point advantage on 'he has the honesty and integrity to serve as president' (41-40). For a president whose stock in trade used to be the strong leader who told it like it was, that's not very encouraging news."

...but now he lied because allegedly he claimed to support some bill, but didn't really and worked to make it go away. This is absurd.


Where does Kleiman have the facts wrong? You don't have any idea, do you?


... This is much less a lie than Clinton is responsible for welfare reform.


Now he's lying, but it's "less a lie"? OK.
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