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Old 07-02-2004, 12:10 PM   #3830
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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield

And as to QBs being physically imposing, have you seen a lot of QBs on television out of pads? They're pretty average looking. Sure, there are some old school freaks like Jim Kelly, who played linebacker before QB, but take a look at Brady or Manning (they're a little tall, but not physical freaks... or maybe I just know way more 6'4 people than than most folks), or watch Phil Simms do commentary. You think Montana was a physical freak? I'd also invite you to look at a picture of Jerry Rice. These guys are not physical monsters, just average guys in really good shape, with some added muscle which most average men could put on if they had the time and inclination


ETA: To the fuck who will post Brady and Mannig's stats and say "6'4, 22 is not a freak????" I offer that I have about four or five friends of comparable height and size. In fact, you all probaly converse with one...
Good God, are you full of shit. First of all, seeing a professional QB on television without pads and seeing one in person are two different things entirely. And I suppose you haven't thought at all of "new school" guys like Daunte Culpepper (6'4", 260) or Byron Leftwich (6'5", 240), for example, who are both fucking huge. Manning is 6'5", 230; Mc Nabb, 6'2", 226; Brady, 6'4, 220; Even Favre (6'2, 225) and Gannon (6'3", 210), who have been around forever, aren't exactly small guys. Anyone smaller than this, or what you would describe as average size, by your definition makes up for their lack of size by having some other ability superior to the other NFL quarterbacks, usually speed and the ability to avoid the rush, (see, e.g. Vick (6'00, 215) or Garcia (6'1, 195) and both of these guys were out for part of the year last year.

Why even bring up Simms? How long has he been retired? Besides, I would be willing to venture that he isn't now at the weight he was when he played, because he doesn't do the same amount of physical conditioning he did then. Montana is a freak, but not for the reason you expect. He is a freak because he had skills that allowed him to be successful despite his size, much like a Vick or a Garcia or a Doug Flutie, but these guys are the exception and not the rule. And why even bring up Rice? Different position, different set of physical characteristics needed. Quarterbacks are getting pursued primarily by Defensive Linemen/linebackers. Who do receivers have to worry about mostly? Smaller defenders like cornerbacks and safeties.

I think your idea of average is what is out of whack. And Alex is a freak.

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