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[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
As for racism, I doubt we'll ever get enough agreement on what constitutes racism to have a coherent discussion.

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On this board, however, there is hope we can agree which party has the better platform vis-a-vis LGBT issues, and that party is the Dems. If we assume the marketplace works, this is an indication of what Dems tend to want individually --- not unanimously, but it's safe to presume party platforms represent what the party thinks is appealing to its members.

I didn't say voting GOP made one a bigot. Clearly not so. I said voting GOP makes you responsible, in a non-enforceable moral sense, for the policies it enacts when in the majority. This strikes me as an underpinning of republican democracy. You can't simply say, "Well, I didn't agree with that part of his platform" and wash your hands of the very real impacts it's having on people. We don't let DUIs say, "I got drunk voluntarily, but obviously hitting those kids was a total accident --- never planned on it." People are responsible for the foreseeable consequences of their actions. Voting is an action. No free pass.

Somehow I find myself agreeing with both you and club now.