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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Dude, we are talking about a culture (the Saudis) which beheads people in public squares for small time drug sales and "crimes of blashpemy" and believes that slowly slicing off a person's head with a kitchen knife is a palatable form of political expression (militants). Women cannot vote in their society, let alone drive a car. In certain of their countries, the murder of women by their borthers is allowed as an "honor killing." In one case, religious police refused to allow firefighters to enter an all girls' school to save little kids from a fire (Saudis again). In Afghanistan, they were stoning people for adultery before we brought civilization back to the savages.

Yes, as the pompous old Brits who colonized these people would say, the moderate normal majority of Muslims in that part of the world is held hostage by "savages." You can make the weak academic argument - and you will - that its "a culture difference" and I'm ignorant and unfairly judgmental. Rubbish, professor. Get your head out of your arse. We have loathesome practices such as the death penalty and hypocritical lying politicians in charge, but we're not behaving like we're in the 13th century. Wahhabism is an idiotic, perverse, offensive form of governance. I hate to use the term, but it is, well, evil. Its nothing more than a way for scared men to keep women under foot, and I won't even acknoweldge the stupid argument that its somehow as valid as Western Democracy. I can understand monarchy, I can buy socialism... hell, communism has some worthwhile ideals. But horrific discriminatory religious fanaticism as the rule of law is not a "different culture." Its a lower form of humanity.

Whether bombed to the Stone Ages or slowly killed by political pressure (preferrably the latter, of course), the Wahhabists and the Shariah following imbeciles need to go. I'm a belt and suspenders kind of guy - I say bombs and pressure.

It wasn't that long ago that people were lynched in America, and we overcame that without being bombed. Why the deep need to deny the humanity of these people? Al Qaeda is a minority movement even in Saudi Arabia. It seems to me that talking about replicating Dresden is playing into their hands, but, hey, I'm up in the ivory tower with my head in my ass -- you clearly have a better idea.