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Originally posted by taxwonk
You didn't even come close, here, Hank. Pony posted somethng aling the lines of how the US should have nuked Baghdad, then Teheran, then Damascus on successive days after 9/11 because the Koran says that it's okay to beat your wife, as if that was proof that Muslims in general are less worthy as human beings than we are.
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9/11 I listened to Howard Stern. It was his best show ever. That day he said we should nuke, "you know where." But even that day I knew that "where" is the big question and the heart of the debate between "just 2 dozen bad guys", or "a serious problem posed by a religion". Pony's 3 targets are arguably not well-choosen even accepting that nuking was in order. One could argue Kabul, Islamabahd and riyahd would be more effective places to nuke.I don't think nuking is right, but the fact that we don't know where to nuke surely should answer the question; should we nuke?
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Many Muslim groups have condemned the terrorist action of Islamic extremists. But, and this is more important...
THEY DON"T HAVE TO!!!
Muslims are no more responsible as Muslims for the actions of others than you and I are. To suggest that because they share a faith with the Terrorists, they share the blame is scapegoating and it is the lowest form of discourse and the basest level of ignorance.
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I don't think muslim groups have unconditionally condemned much. i know its shitty to say "cite please" but I believe you'd be hard pressed to support this. And consider that Osama is one of the most popular names for boys, toys are being made of Osama knocking down the towers, 80% of SA people HATED us before Iraq, etc. I think you have your head in the sand- sorry. I live in the city with the biggest Islamic population in the US. I interact and don't fear and everything- But I do fear what is going on in other countries in the name of Islam.
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You're right about the first phrase in this sentence. Not all Muslims are bad. The remainder of the sentence is just plain wrong, though. The best hope for aviding a race war is for all thinking, freedom-loving people of the world to refuse to accept, condone, or even ignore statements like those uttered by Diane and Pony.
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Meaningless statements based upon anger or alcohol on an internet forum don't lead to war. But dead kids could. if the Islamic peoples of the world would just refuse to accept and condone 150 dead kids, that would be more important than what Pony might say.
