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Old 10-07-2004, 07:11 PM   #1851
Tyrone Slothrop
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Originally posted by sgtclub
I just don't see it that way, but we'll never agree. I don't think it was held up for the election (DOH that is). I think it was held up because they didn't really like the idea, but political pressure got to great and they caved.
You've just forgotten the facts. They didn't cave. The bill wasn't enacted before the '02 elections because of the impasse on rolling back the civil-service protections, and the GOP used the issue to paint Max Cleland and other Dems as soft on Osama bin Laden.

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I admit I haven't had time to follow intelligence reform that closesly, but why does the 9/11 commision recommendations need to be followed whole cloth in order for you not to see nefarious intent. I have a lot of reservations on the recommendations. Not that I wouldn't ultimately agree with them, but I think they deserve serious thought.
Re-read what I posted from TAPPED. You have a bill that the Senate passed 96-2, but the House leadership won't let it come to a vote. Instead, they're pushing an alternative bill that omits most of the 9/11 Commission's recommendations, and includes a bunch of other peripheral things.

And I'm sure very few people would support the entire Commission package. I'm sure most Commissioners wouldn't. Some compromise is inevitable, though, if you want to get anything done. And yet the House leadership won't even let it come to a vote.

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Here's where I just lose you. The following is not direct at you, but to many DEMs on the Hill, including JFK. I think they are being opportunist in their stance and have been looking for an opportunity to go against Bush since before the war started. Fortunately for them, and unfortunately for our troops, that window of opportunity was made easy by the inept handling of the post war reconstruction.
Whatever. That has nothing to do with what I was discussing. If Bush had proceeded in a bipartisan way, it would be hypocritical for Democrats to criticize the war they were helping to run. But that never happened.

And again -- you're complaining that the Democrats were opportunistic in what they said, I'm complaining that the GOP was opportunistic in how it governed. Which is worse?

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Many were. I'm not referring to you.
Then so what?
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