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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Fred was alleged to be in a "leftist" group, and attacking him was okay because he was on the file. in fact, he was in the group McCarthy alleged. Walsh said "Senator stop" McCarthy said "you offered him buddy fair game."
Last night Kerry drags Mary into an answer where putting a face on it served no purpose to the answer. People here say it was okay because she was on the file. I am not equating being a leftist and being queer. One is really stupid and controllable, the other is just the way some people are.
What I'm saying is Kerry dragged someone in to make some point, where he had no business doing so, and where the point was really to try and harn someone else entirely. Seems similar to Joe's move to me.
edit: and if being stupid and lazy is a crime here, I'm fixin to make some citizen's arrests.
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Fischer had been in the group years before, and briefly. Cheney is out, and is the (a?) top aide to the vice president in his re-election campaign. So those are entirely different. And Welch had a deal with Cohn to leave Fischer out of it, which McCarthy was breaking. A second big difference. Last, you are (implicitly) equating Communism and lesbianism. If there's no shame in the latter, what's the problem?
Kerry's point -- which didn't strike me as being particularly well articulated or useful, FWIW -- was to humanize the issue by putting a face on it. Schieffer did this when he wanted to talk about what the candidates would say to a single jobless worker (Bush: You're dumb -- educate yourself). Kerry was doing the same thing by changing the terms of the question from an abstract one about homosexuality to a specific one about particular people. McCarthy, OTOH, was just fucking Fischer over for the hell of it.
I think the horse is dead now.
