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Old 10-15-2004, 06:40 PM   #293
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Originally posted by mmm3587
You are so misguided it's hilarious. Your contacts are members of the Chicaco Police Department, and even they agree that he was treated with favoritism. Do you have any concept of how wrong and illegal someone has to act before CPD admits that one of their own did something wrong.

Let me refresh your memory as to Illinois law. It applies in Chicago (which is part of Illinois), and it is definitely applied to anyone who is a minority, a professional, a white guy who doesn't bribe the arresting officer or a woman who won't agree to blow the arresting officer.
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There's no evidence of that because the rules and law were violated, so the CPD managed to protect one of their own, yet again. He's doing a little prison instead of a lot.
The thing is, we agree that the department is crooked as all hell. Despite the length of my post, the part that I perhaps should have made more clear, is that the rules do not require the testing of every driver involved in a fatal accident. Do you want the phone number to the people I know so you can get a copy of the police department's orders so that you can read through 4,000 pages until you realize that there is no such order? Moreover, even the "orders" are only "guidelines".

Here's how reliable the numerous people I know in the Chicago Police Department are. The 10 I'm closest to will never set anyone up with a cop. They uniformly agree the department is a cesspool, particularly at the highest level. The parts of your post that I omitted are basically supported by the post you were responding to. But, unless you've studied (or taught) the 4,000 pages of general orders of the orders of the Chicago Police Department, I'm telling you that there is no basis for your statement that they broke the rules if they didn't demand he blow.

If they did ask him, good for them and bad for the disciplinarians in the department. In particular, he was supposed to be fired then before the conviction, as you can't refuse to blow upon request under the orders. But you might want to check with someone who has been exposed to the rules before you start spouting off about what they are. Clearly, you have not.

ETA, and just in case its not clear, I completely agree that its completely a cesspool. The whole fucking city is. Would you run for mayor against Daley? I will support anyone, and I mean anyone, who is not currently affiliated with the Democratic party in Chicago or Cook County.

E (again) TA http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...ssouthwest-hed
It appears they did request that he submit to a breathalyzer, which was a good idea. He refused. Further, given that refusing to blow is a terminating offense for which others have been fired, its inexplainable that the guy was working on desk duty until the trial. He should have been suspending pending separation the next day. Cess. Pool.
It wasn't mandatory that they ask him to blow; and its not mandatory to try and force him to blow if he refuses. I'm told that the great majority of officers are not qualified or equipped to even give a breathalyzer, which probably helps explain why DUI rates are far higher in *some* suburbs that take safety more seriously. Personally, I think drunk drivers, including 1 or 2 distant members of my family, should be shot.


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