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Old 10-26-2004, 03:08 PM   #33
Tyrone Slothrop
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Quote:
Originally posted by bilmore
You have just laid out the NYT's Board Motto.

Because, six days before the election, they know it's true.

I would have no quibble with a "let's take a reasoned approach to this" outlook had the NYT, CBS, ABC, Kerry, et all, not tried to score so many points with this tripe yesterday. Just don't tell me that you get to make the initial scream, garner the idiot votes from it, and then benefit from a measured examination of what was said right before we vote.
If you are going to pretend that all of the major media are house organs of the Democratic Party, there's really no point in conversing at all. We could just go to our respective branches and grunt at each other. I see that you've omitted NBC from your list of sinners, presumably because they've run with the story you like this time. Meanwhile, the NYT ran Judith Miller stories about WMD for months which swallowed govt leaks hook, line and sinker, and yet they're going to Hell.

Kerry picked up on news headlines that fit his campaign message. Big surprise. I cannot believe that you think Kerry should be giving a "let's take a reasoned approach to this," whatever the hell that means, one week before an election. (If he did, you would be calling him nuanced and French and unfit to lead.) Since Bush's campaign is increasingly based on lying about Kerry's position (see, e.g., Kerry's plan for a government takeover of health care, and his willingness to let the UN veto our foreign policy), we can all agree that you are not exactly articulating a neutral code of behavior that you think all candidates should abide by.

The real question is what to make of the various stories about the missing explosives. I asked you, several posts ago, what was wrong or missing from Marshall's account. You have yet to respond. I do not understand why you think the NYT story is an old one, since you are also complaining that they just scooped CBS, and since it appears the White House did not know about all this until recently. I also do not understand why you think the NBC trumps what (e.g.) the NYT and AP have reported.

eta:

Since I don't have time to read all the coverage, here's what Sullivan says:
  • Many of you have demanded I retract my criticisms of the Bush administration's handling of the explosives cache at al Qa Qaaa. If the facts really do emerge that these materials were removed before or during the invasion, I will. But the evidence is far murkier than that and points predominantly in the direction of U.S. negligence. Marshall has the best summary. Two things stand out for me: David Kay believes the stuff was looted after the invasion; no news crew, like NBC's, would have had the capacity to check the inventory of a plant hundreds of buildings big. But if the facts change, I'll respond.
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