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Old 03-30-2005, 12:26 PM   #1624
Shape Shifter
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Ty- now is it a scandal?

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Originally posted by bilmore
It's always first thing in the morning wherever I am.

And I think the point is that the people at Abu Ghraib (sp?) were not given that discretion. But, war being a bloody unorganized mess, they took it anyway. And, are in the process of being punished. There's a large moral difference between authorizing a thing, and failing to stop a thing. They're being treated the same here, because it's convenient for the partisan argument.
Bullshit. This should not be a partisan issue. Those acts of barbarism have damaged our national prestige and our claim to be a civilised society. It will have a negative impact on our foreign policy for years to come and created unnecessary risks for our current and future soldiers. I'm not out for W's hide on this, so quit feeling like you have to defend the administration. Let's admit that there was a problem and fix it, and fix it as openly as possible to repair some of the damage that's been done. This is not what's happening, as the piece posted by gatti indicates.

eta: From this week's The Onion:

American Torturing Jobs Increasingly Outsourced
WASHINGTON, DC—AFL-CIO vice president Linda Chavez-Thompson, representing the American Federation of Interrogation Torturers, released a statement Monday deriding the CIA's "extraordinary rendition" program, under which American torturing jobs are outsourced to foreign markets. "Outsourcing the task of interrogating terror suspects to countries like Egypt, Syria, and Saudi Arabia is having a crippling effect on the Americans who make a living by stripping detainees nude, shackling them to the floor, and beating the living shit out of them," Chavez-Thompson said. "And specialists within the field—corrosive-material chemists, ocular surgeons, and testicular electricians—are lucky to find any jobs at all. How are they supposed to feed their families?" Attorney General Alberto Gonzales defended extraordinary rendition, saying the program will create jobs in the long run by fostering a global climate of torture tolerance.

http://www.theonion.com/
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