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Old 03-30-2005, 01:07 PM   #1636
Shape Shifter
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Ty- now is it a scandal?

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Originally posted by sgtclub
But you are missing my point. Our civil rights and basic human dignities at home are neither guaranteed nor written in stone. It is up to us to defend them.

I started off this discussion saying that I was torn on the issue because the stakes in war are so high that a win at all costs attitude may be necessary. Let me throw this back at you. Would it be better for us to not torture, even if that meant losing the fight and, in turn, our civil rights and basic human dignities?
This is not at all close to the situation we were confronted with. Let's dispense with the fun little hypos and stick with the facts.
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