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Old 05-26-2005, 09:36 PM   #4697
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Sorry, Flinty, nothing personal

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
This is what I still don't get: The dilemma posed is a) divine morality b) self-interest "morality"

there's something in between the two, which spanky seems not to have acknowledged the existence of, which is a morality based on a recognition that pure self-interest is mutually destructive, and that placing a collective interest above that self-interest can be in the interest of all.

So far as I can tell, Spanky would say that the only way the prisoner's dilemma could be solved is if God said "thou shalt not rat out your coconspirator".
The Divine morality is not the same as the collective morality (the ultimate collective morality was communist which was Atheist).


I think the collective theory of morality is basically the same as the self interest. The collective theory is that it is better for the individuals if they form a collective. And for the collective the needs of the many outweight the needs of the few. So you are better off if you are in a collective, but sometimes in a collective the individual gets sacrificed so you should just hope you are not the individual that needs to be sacrificed. You are better of in the collective and the odds are you won't be the one that is sacrificed.
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