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Old 06-08-2005, 01:08 PM   #3
Sidd Finch
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Sour Grapes on CAFTA?

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Originally posted by Spanky
You talk in absolutes which in politics is absurd. You are the one using sound bites. I don't talk in absolutes nor do I use soudbites. I defend every position I take. You may call them soundbites but every sentence after the Tauscher comment is true. I attacked Tauscher because the DLC supports the deal. I actually know Tauscher personally and have met her staff. If I am going to trust someone it will be the DLC over Tauscher.

I agree with you on listening to the DLC. And I supported CAFTA and questioned Tauscher on this. Remember?

I'm just willing to listen to what she has to say and not to adopt your view that she is in the pocket of "unions and special interests." (I'm impressed that you managed to leave "trial lawyers" off the list.) I've repeatedly asked you to explain how such a union whore, as you seem to see her, could get any rating from the Cato Institute nearly as high as what you cited. If you back up everything you say, respond to that.

You back up your tautologies with sound bites. That's not reasoned argument; it is merely spouting absolutes.

Indeed, the very premise that this entire discussion started with -- thou shalt support Republicans if thou believest in the free markets -- is demonstrative of your absolutist views and your absolutist arguments, as is your view that all business lobbies are good, wonderful, pro-growth people. You ignore example after example that contradicts you. Fuck, your own favorite publication, the Economist, endorsed Kerry over Bush -- had they sold out to the socialists that week?



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And to say that the Republican party is caught up in a knee jerk tautology may have some validity but in my opinion the Dems are worse. The DLCs comments on CAFTA are proof. The fact that they have to tell their own people to get over their emotions and do what is right shows that. The Republicans may have hated Clinton but they gave him fast track authority and supported his free trade deals.

The fact that the DLC does this would seem to indicate that the Dems are not caught up in the unified, sound-bite based program that the Repubs are in. They can't even agree on a policy among themselves.
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