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Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
Some things, yes, but I think not this thing.

I called this on the Board over a year ago, and am glad this is getting more publicity now. [The revelation that we ("the OGA") hid some prisoners at Abu Ghraib from the ICRC was a huge clue.] I'm also very glad that this stuff makes some members of the Agency (and many members of the FBI and the military) upset and uncomfortable.

In order to ultimately preserve the freedoms we cherish -- and to avoid the sort of dictatorship that Penske babbles about -- we must have our ideals (democratic and human rights, etc.) instilled in those who serve in our nation's military and security organs. After all, it is ultimately that self-restraint, and the acceptance of civilian oversight and control, among those agencies which prevent such a dictatorship.

This is not what my family members and I served and/or fought for. If it continues unchecked, the day will come when I no longer recognize my country.

S_A_M

Much as the Founders would not recognize our country of today after generations of liberal defilement and destruction of our institutions and ideals.