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Not "a." That one.
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So what makes "this" cartoon depicting Muslim inclination towards violence so different from other ones?
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Turns out, yes.
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Not “turns out”. You know as well as I that muslim inclination towards violence was an issue before this cartoon was printed. This cartoon did not make it an issue.
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I said: You don't think a cartoon depicting a bunch of suicide bombers lining up in heaven for virgins does not have merit?
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That question is about as good as asking whether a painting of a woman has merit? Are we talking about the Mona Lisa? There are plenty of paintings of women that aren't hanging in the Louvre.
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Oh please: This is not a picture for the Louvre, it is a political cartoon, and the subject of a “woman” is much more broad than the specific subject of suicide bombers lining up outside of heaven for virgins. So are you saying that this particular picture of suicide bombers lining up in heaven for virgins is not good but there could be a political cartoon with the same theme that is good? This one was made by a hack but there could be one that has the same artistic merit as the Mona Lisa? – give me a break. You said that these cartoons had absolutely no merit, and that they were insulting muslims “for absolutley no reason”.
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No, I do like political cartoons. No, I do think many political cartoons have merit. No, I think they have some place in political discourse.
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It seemed you didn’t because you said these cartoons had absolutely not merit and there printing serve no purpose. Since they were pretty typical political cartoons, with pretty obvious themes it just seemd to me that you didn't think political cartoons had merit.
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If that was the point of running the cartoons the very first time, I missed it. Some Danish editor had clairvoyance, and knew that if he ran these cartoons, people would get agitated and some would threaten violence, and -- knowing that -- he decided that failing to run the cartoons would be bowing to the threat of future violence. No intimidation!
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The point was a political observation that many Muslims were dying for Virgins in heaven which is a little absurd, and that many of the followers of Mohammed were prone to violence. These were current substantive issues. They had just as murch purpose and merit as most other political cartoons. And it is ridiculous to say they couldn’t forsee the trouble. Not after Rushdie and that Dutch politician getting murdered.
