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I think that distinction falls apart the closer you look at it.
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Not really. Those groups both came out internal struggles. Arafat was outside of Israel, and attacked from outside. One was a civil war. Teh arab-israeli conflict is not.
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Careful -- you're starting to question the last remaining justification for our invasion.
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I still believe that there are lots of justificiations. None of them are that Hussien is a terrorist. He supported terrorists. He also had WMD programs. Refused to cooperate with UN inspections., TRried to assassinate our ex-President.. etc etc OK City.
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His legitimacy came from his position among Palestinians, not from anything Europe or the UN did. And if Israel wanted him dead, they could have killed him many times over. I think they figured the alternatives were worse, or no better.
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I disagree. Israel was forced tod eal with him becaseu to kill him would sent the Euros and the UN through the roof, and Israel was trying to play by some rules. I imagine we leaned on them too, as the Euros leaned on us and we needed them in the Cold War.
For that I criticise us and apologise to Israel. Reagan, for one, should have had more principle. Bush did, and cut him off. Another reason I admire Bush.
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I think you are trying to say they talk funny. I agree.
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Whateverr,m Im not editing this shit for perfection. Althoughm that is sort of funny.
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Bite me.
Your schtick, over and over, is to paint the left as absurd. If you want to have a real conversation, stop doing your level best to paint the other side as absurd. Maybe some lefties are in denial about who Arafat was. Until they show up here to argue with you, you're wasting your breath.
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No schtick on this one. Why can't you denounce him without watering it down? I think that is absurd. SEriously.
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop Because in the real world, we sometimes find ourselves dealing with the moral equivalent of terrorist baby killers. Saddam Hussein. The current leaders of Egypt and Saudi Arabia. And so on.
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And maybe we shouldn't. Maybe principle should be more important, but none of the nations or individuals you cite above are solely terrorists who gain their traction as legitimate political axctors from acts of terrorism.
