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Old 08-16-2006, 03:12 PM   #4000
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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
The 2d hand smoke debate is so flawed. The surgeon general says its "dangerous" in any amount. That's simply a lie. It's an outrageous expansion of the baseline for "danger." Ask any oncologist - he'll tell you they've never even proved 2d hand smoke can cause lung cancer. It's considered a joke among docs privately, but they don't say that aloud.

We allow the govt to lie to us on these issues because "well, its all for a better good." And so they take our liberties. I personally don't mind smoking bans, but the dumb do-gooders who get behind them, and trumpet their misinformation like it were scripture, are sooooo fucking annoying.
I called a pulmonolgist. He laughed at you. I'll be more than happy to expand the survey to the rest of the Texas Medical Center, if you'd like, including the oncologists over at MD Anderson and the Environmental Health and Safety people over at UT's School of Public Health, if you'd like. I'm afraid, though, if you want me to get a huge sample, I'll have to seek IRB approval, so that might take some time.

BTW, Medline is free to the whole wide world, you know.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...arch&DB=pubmed

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...=pubmed_docsum

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...=pubmed_docsum

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...=pubmed_docsum

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...=pubmed_docsum

ETA: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...=pubmed_docsum (relationship between SIDS and second hand smoke)

And that's just a handful of the second hand smoke studies.
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