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Old 08-21-2006, 03:14 PM   #4460
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Maybe.

Or that it has strengthened Iran by replacing an enemy with an ally.
I wouldn't call Iraq an ally yet. It's a long haul, and for at least the next 2.5 years, Bush has agreed to secure Iraq. I think it will take longer, but if we stay the course, Iraq will come out a shining light of democracy in the ME.

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Or that it has pretty much destroyed US military credibility worldwide. If Bush or Rummy said that we were going to make a preemptive strike at, say, Togo, and it would be over in a few weeks, would you believe it?

Or that it has pissed away so much of our goodwill with governments and populations of countries that are important to fighting the real enemy (y'know, the one Bush tried to link to Iraq).

Our allies are feckless. Fuck em. I vote we go it alone or maybe with Great Britian (give that they created a lot of the mess that underlies these conflicts).

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Everyone is talking about Hezbollah's victory in fighting Israel to a standstill. Haven't al-Qaeda in Iraq and the Mahdi Army done the same thing to the much more powerful US?
Hezbollah didn't fight Israel to a standstill. Teh anti-semitic Israel haters in Weurope and the UN called a timeout. A standstill was Iran-Iraq in the 80s. Hezbollah just proved to be more than a 1 week pushover. SAme with Iraq. If we wanted to "win" we could. It just depends on what the definition of win is.
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