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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
One, show me actual torture.
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I haven't figured out yet what I'd need to show you for you to say it's torture. Which is odd, because . . . .
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Two, show me a terrorist with crucial information, and I'll be more than happy to suggest cutting off the digits of his fingers, excrutiatingly slow, to get that information. If that's torture, so be it.
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. . . . you seem to be OK with torture in any event, so I'm not sure why you're so invested in arguing that torture is not torture.
Even before your third point, I was going to observe that we managed to win World War II without torturing Germans and Japanese combatants.
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Three, my country had the "principles " to firebomb hundreds of thousands of CIVILIANS in Germany (killing some relatives of mine in the process) and to nuke the fuck out of Japan, all in all to stop WWII. Pretty damn successful, don't you say.
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Two wrongs make a right in your world?