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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I said he was innocent and we knew it. And I don't think federal judges are exactly eager to loose accused terrorists.
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I don't know if you are lying or have Alzheimer’s. We had left that hypo way behind. I was responding to: Why don't we want foreigners to have any rights? Do you not believe that all men are created equal, and entitled to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness?
In any realistic discussion of the issue we will never know if the detainee is innocent before he applies for a hearing, so to have a hypo where we do is just absurd. The issue is should all detainees have the right to this writ. Your hypo was absurd, and after I went to such lengths to discredit the hypo it is ridiculous that you thought I was referring to it again.
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
New hear this:
- Alexander Hamilton said, ‘A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one!’ … You and I know and do not believe that life is so dear and peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery. If nothing in life is worth dying for, when did this begin—just in the face of this enemy?—or should Moses have told the children of Israel to live in slavery under the Pharaohs? Should Christ have refused the cross? Should the patriots at Concord Bridge have thrown down their guns and refused to fire the short heard round the world? … Well, it’s a simple answer after all.
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It is kind of ironic that you quote Alexander Hamilton because he was against the current constitution. In addition, it is absurd to quote a man who would have never considered that enemy combatants should have any rights. Do you really believe that Alexander Hamilton thought British soliders caught during the Revolutionary War (which was really a civil war so many of the prisoners of war were residents of the colonies) should have a right to the writ of Habeus Corpus?
The quote is not on point. The main thesis of the quote in no way contradicts anything I have said, making its posting completely irrelevent.
