| I do think that our use of torture diminishes our allies desire to help us in our war.  In addition, I think our use of torture does make the populations of muslim countrys less inclined to help us.  In other words, if forty percent of the populatoin of Kuwait supported us, now it is only thirty five percent once they find out we are torturing people.  We look less hypocritical if don't use torture, and I for one, think hypocracy is one of the most effective ways of turning people against you.    
 On the other hand, in this type of war, there is no question that we can get information from detainees that will save American lives.  Secrecy and secret identies is their most important weapon.   I just think it is common sense that people won't rat on their friends unless forced.  And pain is a very effective tool in getting people to betray their friends.
 
 So like most decisions in life, we need to choose the lesser of two evils.  Each choice will bring benefits and costs.
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