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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Many Democrats tend to agree with Joe on the issues.
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But not the ones who voted for Lamont.
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
What they -- I -- can't stand about him is his predilection to aggrandize himself by selling out his party. He's like the New Republic in this way -- they're perfect for each other. He's never happier than when he's sticking it rhetorically to those to his left, and winning the praise of the David Broders of the world.
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Not sure what this means. I tend to think that both parties and their extremes need it stuck to them a fair amount, and I tend to admire people who do it. Party loyalty is overrated. He is a bit smug and self-aggrandizing, but that's not uncommon among successful career politicians.
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
If this is why you like him -- and, frankly, I suspect you of Broderesque tendencies -- then I'll ask you this: Name an issue since 2000 where Lieberman has leveraged his bipartisan cachet into some kind of actual policy achievement, as opposed to using it to look better. Is it just sizzle, or is there some steak? I would be more impressed with him if I thought he actually could get shit done, but I don't see it.
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Can't think of a big one (aside from maybe the judicial filibuster compromise) -- but it takes 2 to be bipartisan. There has been little opportunity for that over the past fewl years, because the GOP has had enough of a majority that they didn't have to compromise much on most issues.
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
He's made a number of statements lately that cause people to question this. I happen to agree with you, for two reasons: (1) He's trying to get Republicans to vote for him, and (2) Once he decides to caucus as a Republican, his days of striking the bipartisan pose as the responsible Democrat on the Sunday morning talk shows are over, and he becomes just another Richard Shelby.
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He has flat out said he'll caucus with the Democrats, and Joe isn't a liar.
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