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Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
But not the ones who voted for Lamont.
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I disagree you with you there. Lamont is not that lefty. I suspect that two things drove voters to Lamont: (1) Iraq, and (2) Joe's penchant for whacking Democrats as a matter of style.
And it's really the second, not the first. There are other Democrats who had Joe's position on Iraq and who are up for re-election this year -- Maria Cantwell, Dianne Feinstein -- have not sparked Lamonts to run against them. In that regard, Joe is sui generis.
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Not sure what this means. I tend to think that both parties and their extremes need it stuck to them a fair amount, and I tend to admire people who do it. Party loyalty is overrated. He is a bit smug and self-aggrandizing, but that's not uncommon among successful career politicians.
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What you say made sense a decade or two years ago. But Democrats who strike a bipartisan pose with this Admininstration get used, and get nothing for it. Except the ego-striking that Joe loves. Most politicians are self-aggrandizing, but those who do it at the expense of their own party are in a different category.
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Can't think of a big one (aside from maybe the judicial filibuster compromise) --
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Not even a small one. (The judicial filibuster "compromise" didn't actually accomplish anything for those who -- like Lieberman -- professed to have some concern about Bush's appointments. Nothing.) Because Lieberman cares about striking a centrist pose, not about accomplishing anything. If you're going to sell out your party, you should be getting something out of it.
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-- but it takes 2 to be bipartisan. There has been little opportunity for that over the past fewl years, because the GOP has had enough of a majority that they didn't have to compromise much on most issues.
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No shit. And yet Lieberman either hasn't figured that out or is happy to lend a bipartisan facade without getting anything in return except that accolades of the David Broders of the world. And let's face it -- he's not stupid.
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He has flat out said he'll caucus with the Democrats, and Joe isn't a liar.
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I'm inclined to agree with you, but if he isn't a liar then he's certain a bullshitter:
- Lieberman -- who needs GOP votes as an independent -- was asked in an interview published today in the Hartford Courant whether America would be better off if his lifelong party took back the House. The Courant reports that Lieberman responded: "Uh, I haven't thought about that enough to give an answer."
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You like this side of him?
