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		| Originally posted by Spanky No offense, but you are an idiot that makes assumptions in total ignorance of the subject you are talking about.  Why is it that the most ignorant are always  the most sure of themselves?  Have you ever worked as a teacher?  I did work as a teacher and what makes you think you have any idea of how good of a teacher I was?
 
 
 
 This is possible but I am pretty sure you are full of it.  First, how do you know that they are good teachers?  And they all have told you they are teachers because of the job security?  I don't buy it.  I have three former teachers that work for me right now.  They still socialize with all the teachers they work with.  I discuss teaching issues with them all the time and none have told me they stay because of job security.  And they all talk about bad teachers they all know who won't ever leave because of job security.
 
 
 
 You don't force teachers into the bad class rooms.  You give them the option with higher pay.  And just because this one teacher quit doesn't mean others will.  You can't take an example of one teacher and extrapolate it to the entire profession.
 
 You offer teachers more money and they will take it.  Specially a young aggressive idealistic one.   I have known many teachers and not one has told me that they stay because of job security.  They do it because of the schedule and they love teaching.  But they all would like higher pay.
 
 It is the incompetant ones that stay for job security.  They don't like the profession, but probably wouldn't be good at anything else (unlike the good teachers) so they stay  because unlike other places, their incompetance is tolerated.  The California school system is riddled with bad teachers and bad principles (the whole dance of the lemons scenario) and it is all because of this stupid tenure system.
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 I have worked as a teacher.  My parents are teachers.  My parents' friends are teachers.  I know a bit about what motivates teachers.  I think  you would be a bad teacher because, well, I do.
Job security is important. Can you compensate for it by paying people more? Sometimes, yes.  How about a little test: you ask your many teacher friends how much more they would have to be paid to put the question of their continued employement squarely into the hands of 30 (or 150) students every year and/or the discretion of administrators.  I don't think the answer is any kind of number that any taxpayer is willing to accept.  I asked my mother: her answer was $40k a year.
She has been named her school district's teacher of the year twice.