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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
I love these definitional arguments.
So what you're saying is that Clinton's not a liberal when he bombs Serbia because liberals are not in favor of any wars.
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When did I say Clinton was (or is) a liberal? In fact I have said quite the opposite. No members of the DLC are liberals. They take liberal positions some time but generally they are not liberals.
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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy In other words, liberals are against wars because when they aren't against wars they aren't liberals.
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Real Dye in the wool liberals oppose most wars. Who would argue against that? Would you say Barbara Lee is not a liberal?
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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
That's like saying all conservatives are dumb because if they weren't dumb they wouldn't be conservatives.
Equally true as your statements.
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I think you can accuse George Will, William F. Buckley, Krauthammer etc of may things, but being stupid is really one of them.
It is pretty hard for me to imagine a war (or at least on the US would get involved in) that a real Dye in the wool neocon would oppose. Isn't it also pretty safe to say that a true conservative would oppose any war that you could not at least argue was in the US's strategic interest. For example, a true conservative would not support military intervention in Darfur? A true liberal would allow an intervention but would either not let our soliders have guns, or forbid them to shoot back.
