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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I see that the "war" is a complete and utter success in that we are taking it to the enemy - the Islamists - over there and not here.
Period. End of story.
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Yeah. And absent the Iraq War the streets of America would be crawling with Islamic terrorists and suicide bombers in running battles with the police and National Guard. We wouldn'tr have any way to stop it at all.
You rest your entire analysis of this "success", apparently, on a completely unproven and unprovable hypothetical. Nice work if you can get it.
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
That the neo-cons were a bunch of optimists that failed to realize that Islamic fervor and infighting would triumph over any attempts at establishing democracy over there was indeed a failure. Lesson learned. True.
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Ok -- Any adverse consequences to this failure? Any way in which this wonderful political and policy triumph has worsened America's position in the world? If so, to save time, please explain up front how this can all be blamed on our party.
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
But don't give me this Biden-ish and Kerry-ish crap about fuckups and the like. The Dems read the intel, voted for everything, and they never said word "boo" until it was politically expedient to bad mouth the President. And yet still doesn't have the sack to do anything about it.
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Next you'll explain how Lay and Skilling and Fastow weren't really all that culpable in the Enron scandal -- it was the damn VPs and middle management.
Simply not credible.
S_A_M