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					Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)  Doesn't the same problem exist without chip timing?  I'm pretty sure Rosie wasn't chipped.
 Also, aren't there random/hidden chip test points to prevent the Ruiz problem?
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 But Rosie ran before they had designated "elites" at races.  That's probably one of the reasons why the elites get their own start corral/wave.  So they don't have to monitor thousands of people.  I wasn't saying that chip timing prevents cheating.  Rather, I meant that creating an elite corral/wave does.
Chip timing actually allows non-elites to compete against elites, just like our Arien did.  I don't think chip timing solves any of the problems; I was just commenting on Hank's post that the non-elites "lose 10 seconds" because a later start.  They don't.
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think all of the time points are open and obvious (and labeled as such).