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Old 12-18-2008, 01:22 PM   #2786
ThurgreedMarshall
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Re: put down the pitchforks

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Wishful thinking.
Good non-response. How is it wishful thinking? If you're going to talk about sports reporters and pundits, then I'm not sure we need to be having this conversation because they need to cause controversy to get people to read their stories and watch their shows.

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How is this any different than saying "if you aren't good enough to be in the top two even you have no claim?"
Is this a serious question? If you are ranked 9th, how could you possibly claim that you deserve to be in the championship game? If you are undefeated and are ranked third, you have a legitimate argument. If you are ranked 9th and you don't make the playoffs, I and almost everyone else in the world, don't really give a shit. You seem to think we'll have the same kind of controversy as we do now. And either you're crazy or you're just being hard-headed.

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But my point is to separate the two underlying motivations for a playoff. You are focusing on certainty. I don't place much value on that, but fine. But you could easily get the same result with the plus one (or a four team playoff).
I didn't think we were arguing about the type of playoff (although, now that you brought it up, if you're going to have a plus one system, why not just have an actual playoff system?). I simply said there should be a playoff system.

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The other motivation is inclusiveness, with the non-BCS conferences, and the folks in the media that champion their cause, complaining that the Boise States of the world go undefeated but still never get the chance to play for the championship. There beef isn't totally unfounded, but you can't solve this "problem" unless you have at least 8, but more likely 16 teams in a playoff. There are ways to make either happen, but they involve throwing basically the entire college football tradition, for the 1 in 100 shot that Boise State pulls off a string up unlikely upsets.
I have no problem with an 8 or even a 16 team playoff. And I don't care about college football tradition either. It's only tradition until it's changed in favor of something better (like the fight everyone had over the wildcard).

I also don't care about the Boise States of the world under the current system, the old system or any future system.

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