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					Originally Posted by notcasesensitive  I can't say that I ever liked the Counting Crows (they seem to be a total non-sequitor to the rest of your post), but the other bands that you mention just happen to be in a genre that you don't like (apparently).  I call it whiny brit pop and it is my favorite genre, as it turns out (um, yes, I did like The Smiths a little bit too much in college). So why should they sing like a rock and roll singer if that is not their thing? Is there only one acceptable sound in modern "alternative" (whatever the hell that means?)? I do agree with Sebby that the keyboards in some of The Killers songs do their best to wreck the songs, but I don't begrudge some kid from Vegas for trying to do brit pop. | 
	
 
Who else are you including in whiny brit pop?  (prompted by the presence of only one british band in Sebby's screed)