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Old 05-14-2015, 06:00 PM   #61
Sidd Finch
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Re: No Faith in the Moral Standards of the Players as a Group

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Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) View Post
Yes, yes. I get it. The Patriots were long ago established as cheaters. So it is no longer worth looking at evidence carefully - it's enough to say there's a whiff of more cheating, so they are presumptively guilty of that. It's definitely the American way.

No doubt prosecutors would love to have you on their jury.


Prosecutors can't use prior convictions for the same type of conduct where you live?

I'm a little overwhelmed by all the research you all are doing into this, and not going to dive into the weeds with you. I like the Patriots. But they've been caught cheating twice in recent years -- that's not a presumption, that's finding (so, really, my rhetorical question could well have been "Judges don't consider the conviction at sentencing where you live?" But that would have been opaque.)

TM is very, very animated about this -- as he is (and many others are) about many things on this board, including seemingly all sports-related things (including sports he doesn't particularly like -- I miss the "I don't like soccer but let's debate the offsides rule" days, personally). Doesn't mean he's not actually right.
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