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Old 05-14-2015, 08:58 PM   #79
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Re: No Faith in the Moral Standards of the Players as a Group

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Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) View Post
Really? Up until this I could at least respect a different view. But the key piece of evidence is were the balls actually deflated. We know Brady wants them at 12.5, which is legal. And we know the ideal gas law is legal. But all of that doesn't matter because of a bunch of texts? If the balls were at 12.5 and you had all these texts you seem to be saying "still a cheater". I don't get that.

And it's not "somebody's recollection". It's the ref who measured the balls. If you don't want to believe his recollection regarding the gauge, why do you believe his recollection that he actually tested every ball to be 12.5? Although maybe you're saying that if the Patriots provided him with balls that were 11.9 and he failed to catch that with his gauge, they also are guilty of cheating.

Even dopers get a better chance than this - if the A sample is positive and the B sample negative then no violation. I guess you'd be fine suspending them.
I am looking at the totality of the circumstances. I don't have much detail on what the ref said (or the underlying circumstances) other than what's argued in the article. But if you can look at everything in the report and say they didn't cheat, like I said, knock yourself out.

(And dopers get dinged if they find masking agents, but no actual dope, so you're going to have to come up with a better analogy.)

I will say this, though: If the press digs deep into this story (outside of homer newspapers) and they find that it's all just a big misunderstanding and that the guy took the footballs in the bathroom and lied about it because he liked to rub his dick on properly-inflated footballs (or some other reason) and actually is nicknamed the deflator because he can lose weight quickly, I'll admit I was wrong.

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