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Old 02-25-2016, 11:24 AM   #3632
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Re: I can't believe you wasted the electrons necessary to write this post.

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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy View Post
OK, we agree.

I can never figure out how Rs claim this all began because Dems objected to putting a hideous and corrupt asshole on the court and voted for Justice Kennedy instead. (hi Hank!)

Regardless, can we all agree that "but you would do/ have done/ will do/ might do/ would think about doing the same thing" is not a defense to doing the wrong thing, and, when someone does the wrong thing, simply flay them for it?
If that wrong thing is Bork firing Cox, I think it's one wrong thing among many. I'm no Bork expert, but as I recall, the man had a bibliography of noxious articles in which he admitted being a racist, sexist, narrow minded cretin.

Rs can claim anything they like because they live in a post-truth unreality. So too do some of the Dems, but there's is nowhere near as delusional, and if cornered, they can be compelled to compromise.

What most reasonable people fail to grasp about strident Rs is, they aren't having any debates with anyone, at all, ever. They are engaged in 24/7 marketing. It's Edward Bernays/Goebbels stuff. Say a thing enough and it's fact.

I know tons of Rs, smart people. When they say batshit crazy stuff, I'm compelled (usually by drink) to flag them on it. They'll sheepishly admit it's not really true, but in the same breath, almost all of them will concede they're saying it because they believe they're part of a minority that is being forced to lie to save the country. They believe that it's okay to spread falsehoods with abandon because it's in service to a noble cause. "The Dems are stupid, lazy, and they'll drive us to socialism. They have the numbers, because the country is filled with freeloaders and redistributionists, so we have to use whatever means are necessary." There is an elegant logic to it.

I don't buy into any of it. When I vote R, or D, I do it in self interest. And I'll admit that to anyone who asks. This is not a failing on my part. The parties largely serve the same masters in the end, and the only honest man on the stage, Sanders, has an untenable economic plan, and is already doomed by the superdelegates. I'll vote Hillary or Trump holding my nose. If Hillary, it's the long play - better economy over her term. If Trump, it's the cynical short term play - lower taxes. Tough one... A very tough one.
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