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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Exactly, thanks for taking the trouble.
Another way of saying what you said is that we are a diverse country with 20 different political philosophies: right wing born-again evangelicals to libertarians to quaker pacifist hippies, socialists and free market conservatives. The political philosophies that matter find a coalition in a broad political party, and understand that if they do well their party will win most of the time and they'll get what they want some of the time when their party wins but not all of the time.
Anyone who thinks they'll have a "libertarian" party or a "socialist" party fails to understand this. They think they're living in a less intellectually diverse place, or can make America less diverse. Fuck 'em.
The good thing is, at least they're not helping the republicans build a majority. As long as the philosophies of the right can't get together, the good guys win.
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Please reread what I wrote, with focus on the part about Libertarians "informing the policies" of the entrenched two parties.
You and TM are both arguing against a point I've not offered.
I don't expect a Libertarian Party to succeed, or the two party system to end. I expect Libertarianism to infect the policies of both parties. I actually agree with TM's analysis that Paul had the right idea in trying to inject Libertarianism into the GOP. I'm advocating a variant of that. Bernie forced the Democrats to adopt more progressive policies. Libertarians can force the GOP to do the same. This can be done with a Libertarian running as a Republican, as the Independent Sanders did in running as a Democrat. It can also be done by getting Libertarian policies more exposure, and making Libertarians attractive to a GOP in dire need of new voters. Or both. These are not mutually exclusive strategies. In fact, they compliment each other.
It's simple. Make Libertarianism more popular/noticed, get people more accepting of its policies, and let the GOP either co-opt it or absorb some of its policies by necessity.
People are seeking alternatives. TM's right that most people like big govt, but people also like freedom. Tempered Libertarianism is an attractive option. And Trump had marginalized the biggest obstacle to it making gains within the GOP: the Religious Right.
