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[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

The media's fucked. Yes, they contributed to getting Trump elected in some regards. But they also kneecapped the shit out of him. WaPo, the Times, and CNN did more than adequate hit jobs on him to offset any generosity they showed him, and any hit jobs they did on Hillary.

But you keep missing the point. Trump didn't get elected because of emails alone. They were a very minor part of it. He was a protest candidate. His voters didn't give a fuck about anything but throwing a hand grenade into D.C. And the one they threw had the added bonus of promising them jobs. Comey was not as significant as you think. Trump was still going to edge her out. WI, MI, and PA didn't turn red over emails.

You're deflecting. The blame lies with all of us who've written off flyover land and thought they'd just fade away and disappear.

Trump's just a recognition of what we are -- a fractured nation of can make its and can'ts.

Apparently the only conversation you can have is about who's to blame. My point: the whole f*cking email ruckus was an embarrassment to anyone who took it seriously, and as time goes by most of those will come to realize it. Even now it should be blindingly obvious that the question of which server the Secretary of State's email was on is pointless compared to the other consequences of the election. If you want to talk about something else, go nuts, but I note that you aren't disagreeing with me, just "deflecting" in your own way.