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Old 11-20-2016, 12:32 PM   #2447
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Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

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Apparently the only conversation you can have is about who's to blame. My point: the whole f*cking email ruckus was an embarrassment to anyone who took it seriously, and as time goes by most of those will come to realize it. Even now it should be blindingly obvious that the question of which server the Secretary of State's email was on is pointless compared to the other consequences of the election. If you want to talk about something else, go nuts, but I note that you aren't disagreeing with me, just "deflecting" in your own way.
It's politics. Your opponent works with what he's got. The email thing was a useful device for Trump.

Personally, yes, I think the email thing was a huge nothing burger. But she really fucked up by erasing those 30k in emails. There's no way to spin that or deflect it.

I'm not convinced the foundation is totally clean, but I do believe whatever violations there are over there, they fit in the bucket of "criminalized politics." We have too many stupid laws on the books allowing prosecutions for things that are just how business is done in politics.

The Trump University thing deserved more scrutiny. That is troubling, and yes -- it's worse than the foundation's sins, if any. Instead of focusing on that, however, the identity politics wing of the opposition glommed onto a ten year old Access Hollywood tape. That worked for a while, but its effect waned quickly. And it played into the right's narrative that all the left does is whine about sexism and xenophobia. Trump University, OTOH, was a sticky scandal that was universally offensive to anyone, right or left, who detested a rich sleazeball stealing from poor people. I'll never know why Hillary's campaign didn't ram that down his throat more aggressively.
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