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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield
It's politics. Your opponent works with what he's got. The email thing was a useful device for Trump.
Personally, yes, I think the email thing was a huge nothing burger. But she really fucked up by erasing those 30k in emails. There's no way to spin that or deflect it.
I'm not convinced the foundation is totally clean, but I do believe whatever violations there are over there, they fit in the bucket of "criminalized politics." We have too many stupid laws on the books allowing prosecutions for things that are just how business is done in politics.
The Trump University thing deserved more scrutiny. That is troubling, and yes -- it's worse than the foundation's sins, if any. Instead of focusing on that, however, the identity politics wing of the opposition glommed onto a ten year old Access Hollywood tape. That worked for a while, but its effect waned quickly. And it played into the right's narrative that all the left does is whine about sexism and xenophobia. Trump University, OTOH, was a sticky scandal that was universally offensive to anyone, right or left, who detested a rich sleazeball stealing from poor people. I'll never know why Hillary's campaign didn't ram that down his throat more aggressively.
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What evidence do you have relating to anything in the foundation?
I don't have anything left to invest in defending Hillary personally against the incessant lies and investigations that you have chosen to accept as part of politics. The assholes and liars have won, congratulations to you for that. There is no more Clinton legacy in electoral politics. And you'll see Chaffetz continue the tradition of bs never ending investigations that did not exist in American politics prior to Gingrich.
But I've worked with the Clinton Foundation on a couple of occasions and deeply value the fact that a former President and a former Secretary of State who had Presidential ambitions put together a charity that focused on the needs of the broader, less developed parts of the world, a task that is electorally utterly thankless, and even a liability, but in which they have excelled. I really hope that Bill and Hillary will rededicate themselves to the Foundation with gusto, and that people will recognize it for the enormous good it does.
So kill the bullshit shade. Do you have anything concrete to complain about, or is it just the usual bs. If it is, then tell us what you've done for the world.
