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Originally Posted by SEC_Chick
So even I were to detail the at least questionable conflicts of interest on the Clinton Foundation, you would not be persuaded, so I won't bother.
While I was half expecting the GOP to spontaneously combust post election, it has been most interesting to see the Dems response to defeat. If Trump had lost, we would have seen a chorus of joyous "I told you so!" from Never Trump, but the loss of all of those new racist voters would have destroyed the party. But Hillary blames it on Comey. Warren thinks the party didn't go big enough. GGG says she was too wonkish and that's why people don't like her. I may be unusual on this board because the entire time I have lived in the US, I have never lived east of the Mississippi or or west of the Rockies, but this is some special kind of being out of touch. (Ok, I actually lived a portion of my first year in Hank country, but I don't really count that, and it's still deep in flyover land.)
I know you all will argue that the House is stacked because it's gerrymandered, but what about losing the 7 competitive Senate races? Since Obama took office, the Dems have lost 60 seats in the House and a dozen in the Senate. In the states, it's been even worse. Per the WSJ, before 2010, 54.5% of state legislators were Dems, controlling 60 of the 99 state legislatures. Dems totally controlled 17 states. Now they control only 31 state chambers, losing almost a thousand seats since Obama took office and control half as many states. The number of states controlled by the GOP more than doubled.
I am fascinated that I have not seen a single possible thought that perhaps a large portion of American voters have rejected Democratic ideas as they have shifted farther to the left (and as I have seen here are unwilling to acknowledge that there has even been a shift to the left at all). That maybe they should focus less on identity politics and more on the things most people actually care about? Or a real discussion that they pretty much outright ignore almost half the country. That maybe doubling down on ideas voters rejected may not be the best path forward. That polling indicates that the party is far to the left of most Americans on the issue of abortion or that things like the Hamilton cast and the designer who won't dress Melania reinforce the presumptiousness that the Left knows better than everyone else.
I admit I did enjoy the agony of defeat stories about how Hillary didn't speak to her supporters on election night and sent out Podesta because she was in an uncontrolled rage. And that staffers had literally popped champagne on the plane that day. And that Bill had built his presidential library off of the center to leave room for hers. To think this might really be the end of the Clintonian grifting, until Chelsea runs for office.
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You're right that the majority of people don't care about the rights of women, POC, gay people and immigrants.
You're wrong that doing so is moving "left" and that this fact is anything but lamentable.
Hillary is the very definition of center (even slightly right) on fiscal, tax and just about every other type of policy. But the party is no longer willing to endorse oppression for political gain. The country just punished it for that. Everyone should be depressed.
