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Old 11-28-2016, 11:48 AM   #2616
ThurgreedMarshall
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Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

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Originally Posted by LessinSF View Post
People are free to waste their money as they wish, but the hypocrisy from those who decried Trump's comments on the election being rigged is sad and embarrassing.
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And hilariously, a recount at this point, especailly a hand recount as I have been led to believe she is requesting, could result in Wisconsin's electoral votes not counting at all. And now the Hillary campaign is joining in, because voter fraud only is a thing when Democrats lose (especially after the Obama admin said there was no evidence of hacking or Russian influence).
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So he doesn't think it adds an aura of credibility? As long as Spacefuck is asking why not join in? I wish he hadn't won but he did and all this noise is detrimental, ultimately.
This argument about the recount being detrimental is pure bullshit. And Less' comparison to Trump's constant flow of bullshit with regard to voter fraud is (typically) ridiculous.

I think a recount will prove fruitless. But asking for one under our current system doesn't undermine the political process. Implying that the whole system is rigged (in advance of the actual vote) if you don't win, does. Implying that even though you won, millions of votes of fraudulent votes kept you from winning the popular vote does. If a recount is performed it will either confirm the initial outcome or there will be serious evidence that we have a huge issue that needs to be addressed. In neither case does it amount to undermining our democracy or the faith in the voting process.

If Trump lost and had asked for a recount through the processes in each state in which he thought he got screwed, I would think it would be similarly fruitless. (I also don't think he'd do that. He would just yell and scream and tweet about fraud.) But one thing is clear, at least to me. Less would be pointing out the hypocrisy in the opposite direction when someone from the left posted an article about what a waste of time a recount would be. SEC would say "Voter fraud only is a thing when Democrats lose." And Hank would probably ask what the harm is in recounting the ballots.

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