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Old 11-29-2016, 02:32 PM   #2643
ThurgreedMarshall
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Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

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This is not hyperbole. The GOP is going to game it like we've never seen before.

But in fairness, so were the Democrats. I agree with letting felons back onto the voting rolls, but that was a naked play for new votes. And immigration reform would only create more D voters.
Your capacity to try to see things evenly is bottomless. You are equating removing people from the voting rolls for no reason other than the fact that they vote Democrat to removing an arbitrary restriction on voting, which limits a person's ability to exercise a fundamental right for the rest of their lives. The two things are not comparable.

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You can say that the R's efforts are vile, as suppression is intended to keep people from exercising rights, while the D's efforts are aimed at being more inclusive.
Gee, thanks. I think I will.

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And no one can argue with that proposition.
I'm guessing the bullshit is about to flow.

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However, it does remain a fact that both parties were seeking to retain control by procedural means. It just happens that one's doing some serious cheating, while the other was just trying to pack the rolls.
No. This is absolutely wrong. Setting up a law that removes one's right to vote is a way of suppressing the vote. Removing that restriction is not a way of packing the fucking rolls. It is reducing suppression.

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I've heard the R's actions in this regard justified as avoidance of tyranny of a low information majority.
Have you heard that? Are "many people saying?" Did you hear it at a cocktail party?

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This seems ironic given the typical Trump voter in Sticksville, but I can understand a bit of it. I think it was de Tocqueville who said that eventually democracy falls on its face because the sector of the population voting based on promises of transfers to it from the treasury becomes impossible to defeat.
I'm not sure what you understand, but it seems to me that Republicans love low information voters as long as they vote for them. Low information voters who don't must be purged.

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