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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Hmmm. So the associate who writes the brief the clerks read is worth more than the Partner who stands up and argues the case? Showing up and giving a speech is something I at least find a nontrivial delivery myself.
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It's hard to tell whether you are being intentionally obtuse about what I tried to say or whether you are just using me to respond to things that other people have said. I have never questioned that Obama is "worth" what Cantor is willing to pay. My concern is about the politic impact for Democrats.
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It strikes me the reaction to Obama' getting paid for speaking is an emotional reaction from people who have been listening to the HDS sufferers over the years. I understand the emotional reaction. Wall Street bad, associating with it in any way, evil. But that reaction falls apart under even very simple analysis or self-reflection because it simply isn't logical or sensibly applied.
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I can't speak to the emotional reaction you're describing because I can think of only three people who I've seen say that Obama taking Cantor's money is a bad idea (Matt Yglesias, Josh Barro and (maybe) Brian Beutler), and none of them have been what I would describe as emotional, nor are they disposed to think Wall St is bad.
As for me, my view is very simple. He doesn't need it, and it's bad for Democrats, so I wish he wouldn't take the money. The example of Jimmy Carter is instructive. It strikes me that the reaction to what I'm saying is fundamentally emotional, as if I'm trolling Obama. No one thinks he needs the money. No one thinks it's good for the Democratic Party. But everyone likes Obama and wants the best for him, so the wagons are circled.
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Obviously, you've persuaded no one here with any of your arguments, across the whole spectrum from Adder to Sebby.
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If I haven't convinced anyone, well, that's life in the big city.
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But people cling to their vitriol.
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What vitriol? I really don't know what you're talking about.
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I'm sure it's not the biggest issue in the world to you, but this is a theme that has been used to undermine good people and candidates for a while and it obviously elicits a strong (and, yes, emotional) reaction of disgust from many of us. So far I'm finding my emotional reaction easier to logically validate than yours.
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What's the theme that you object to? Again, it feels like you're responding to someone else rather than to me.
