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Old 05-01-2017, 03:12 PM   #5019
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Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be rediculous

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Now, you can say (and you did!) that Obama had a great platform, but didn't have the votes on the Hill to get it passed after 2010. I agree! But that's a big part of the problem. During Obama's time, I thought he was being wise by taking the long view, that voters would reward Democrats for governing well and responsibly. I was wrong! We got Trump and Republican control of government instead. So, saying that the Democrats have great policies isn't appealing if those policies get you two years of positive change, six years of stagnation, and then two/four/??? years of retrograde devolution. I love Obama, but in hindsight it's pretty tempting to say that he got the policies right but the politics wrong. (Could he have built a durable Democratic majority if he'd done things differently? I really don't know.). And if that's the case, maybe the policies weren't quite right -- maybe the policies please you and me but didn't do enough to address the real problems that many voters experience.
And maybe there was some irrational reason why voters have gone for a guy with a message that says "Let's go back to the 50s, all these types of people are bad and dangerous and stealing jobs." If Obama had been white would Trump's rise even be possible?

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