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Old 05-17-2017, 12:11 PM   #205
sebastian_dangerfield
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.

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Other people aren't. What does that make you?
Treated appropriately.

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No. That absolves you from responsibility, which is what you're trying to do.
My responsibility is to not perpetuate, and attempt to remedy, systems that treat others unfairly.

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This discussion started with you griping that you can't act the ways you really want to act.

ETA: Btw, it wasn't long ago that you were arguing that the economically successful needed to realize that they've been lucky.
They should. And I've admitted, I'm lucky to not have fallen into a category of people treated unfairly. But that's a not a privilege. There exists no scenario in which I was elevated above others or given anything. The situation is one in which others have had things taken from them.

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Yeah, that's where you're going off the tracks. You're not guilty because of your privilege, you just need to keep it in mind when you're dismissing other people's experiences.
Here we mostly agree. I'm quite cognizant that others are treated badly. Hell, we've all seen it happen, numerous times. I'd never dismiss that reality. If anything, we have a duty to tell people who'd dismiss that reality how fucking deluded they are -- how perniciously the system fucks with those against whom it discriminates. But doing that is a far different thing from going along with the notion one has received some special elevation above others. I'm probably not alone in noting that, rather than view my life as one elevated in any manner, I'd have to say the world has treated me pretty fucking average. It simply does not seem to care all that much about me. Which is exactly the "average treatment" we all deserve.
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